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Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Farscape One, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. Shamrock Holmes

    Shamrock Holmes Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Given that the original deal in Caretaker was for Tom to go free for helping Janeway find the Maquis, I'd say that Tom going back to jail is extreming unlikely, it could also be argued that the other Maquis' service on Voyager would count as "time served" or "community service". However I agree it's unlikely that any of them would retain their Starfleet ranks or posts on Voyager.
     
  2. TigerCat

    TigerCat Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Actually it wasn't. I re-watched the episode recently and what Janeway said was that she would help him on his next outmate review if he agrees to go with them.

    It never explicitly says what would happen to the Marquis had Voyager returned home early enough (aka prior to the Dominion(?)war) but I highly doubt they'd let the Marquis go free considering Voyager disappeared while chasing after them.
    Think of the (bad) publicity that would create especially in the eyes of the families of the people that died during transport to the Delta Quardant.
     
  3. Gabriel

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    Although I doubt when they come home they i don’t think they would really send Paris back to prison. I mean as far as we know he didn’t commit a violent offense and he did help serve on voyager even when he didn’t have too. Except for some problems it was pretty good service. Now whether he would stay in Starfleet now that is questionable. And maquis they definitely would have not let them go free before the Dominion war. But after, ehh. This year in the fact that Starfleet probably has severe man power shortages and the fact of Jane we probably has given them some pretty good starfleet form of fit reps, the federation would probably pardon them. In fact that’s what they did in the books.
     
  4. Gabriel

    Gabriel Captain Captain

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    I find it very weird that Harry was not a least promoted once. But according to quote the producers “somebody has to be the ensign” which is stupid because he’s he’s a pretty creative officer and he also sometimes commands the night shift. So who is the promotional Tuvok I find it weird that voyager did I have any full LTs. Well the ones we see. Also I found it weird that Carrie was a full Lieutenant. And apparently he still had to go serving serving below Torres. Oh well nature of starfleet. Also I am pretty sure that Chakotay was Lieutenant Commander. The Writers just plain didn’t care. Remember these people sometimes threw canon out the window. Fun fact Janeway was actually supposed to be a commander. (That would have been nice to see, tired of every captain in starfleet holding the rank of captain, not the position but actual four pip, even the small ships.) But apparently they thought people get confused by her being commander and then her being called captain as well. Because apparently the audience is stupid.
    Then again not everybody who watched Star Trek notices things as well as we do. I don’t know if I were a producer I probably would’ve assign somebody to make sure that the uniforms were correct. But of course you can’t blame the costume crew. Those pips are small and to people who don’t know what they mean, it is confusing. Remember to the costume crew: it’s just a job. But then again there’s a saying I like: do the job right or don’t do it at all.
     
  5. Sgt_G

    Sgt_G Commodore Commodore

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    So, commission an enlisted troop and make him/her your token Ensign. Easy done. :vulcan:
     
  6. Gabriel

    Gabriel Captain Captain

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    Yeah but I don’t know if the producers are that smart. But then again we’re fan so we must be wrong and stupid and they must always be right. Well at least that’s their logic some of the time.
    I mean it’s not that hard To promotion some one. In BSG for example even with the destruction of most of their military they still made time to promote some people. They even gave some Enlisted personnel commissions
     
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  7. at Quark's

    at Quark's Commodore Commodore

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    How about "they wanted to avoid any unnecessary replication in the first few weeks due to resource scarcity, they just made do with any stuff they had lying on the shelves ?" :D

    (I know, there's nothing to justify this assumption based on the 'unnecessary replications' we actually see take place during this period, but still, it's fun to try to find a nonsense in-universe explanation..)
     
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  8. chris of nine

    chris of nine Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Make People Feel Good.

    One of the Prime Dierctives of Marketing.

    Field promotions make us root for a character more.

    Improving the bottom line. I’m okay with that.
     
  9. Lynx

    Lynx Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I think it had something to do with the weekly games of kal-Toh between Janeway and Tuvok.
    If Tuvok won, then he was demoted. If Janeway won, then he was promoted.

    As long as he was better than Janeway at playing Kal-Toh, promotion was out of the question.

    ;)
     
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