Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira whitewash

[Skywalker]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

No, everyone from Spanish derivation is Hispanic (you know, from Hispania), both white and non-white, European and non-European. If you're from Mexico, you're both Hispanic and a Latin American. If you're from Spain, you're Hispanic, but you're not Latin American.

 

[Forbin]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

I'm still wondering why we had to stop saying "Oriental" and "Negro."
What was offensive about the words?

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

I'm still wondering why we had to stop saying "Oriental" and "Negro."
What was offensive about the words?

There's nothing intrinsically offensive about any word. Words don't exist in a vacuum. Sometimes, words progressively acquire negative connotations, and once they've got these connotations, it becomes very hard to get rid of them, and much easier to just use a different word.

 

[Deckerd]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

You're right. 'White' has a lot of negative connotations. We need another word.

 

[Sindatur]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

I'm still wondering why we had to stop saying "Oriental" and "Negro."
What was offensive about the words?

And don't confuse the difference between it being OK to refer to someone as "being of Color" but, you can start a riot by referring to someone as "colored"

 

[Forbin]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

So why does no one change the names of the NAACP and the UNCF?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

No comments about Honkeyville?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Is it politically correct for a Caucasian to bitch about being called a honky? I haven't a fucking clue anymore.

I'm still confused about usage of the word "Oriental," since that what I was taught. Also, my town had restaurants such as "The Oriental Inn" when I was growing up. I'm so confused.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Is it politically correct for a Caucasian to bitch about being called a honky? I haven't a fucking clue anymore.

Bitch away. What do you think the internet is for?

But I was wondering what folks thought of the actual content of that article: that Hollywood is being stupid by making movies that have too many white people like Harry Potter and The X-Men (who I always thought was diverse but thinking over the characters, I guess they really are a bunch of X-Honkeys). Yet white-supremacist Thor is doing well at the box office and it's not because one of the characters is played by a black guy, either.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Is it politically correct for a Caucasian to bitch about being called a honky? I haven't a fucking clue anymore.

I'm still confused about usage of the word "Oriental," since that what I was taught. Also, my town had restaurants such as "The Oriental Inn" when I was growing up. I'm so confused.

Probably because Oriental is a word describing things like rugs and cuisine from the east, the far east and not people because Asian people are simply an uptight bunch. Believe you me.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Is it politically correct for a Caucasian to bitch about being called a honky? I haven't a fucking clue anymore.

I'm still confused about usage of the word "Oriental," since that what I was taught. Also, my town had restaurants such as "The Oriental Inn" when I was growing up. I'm so confused.

I haven't heard the word honky outside like The Jeffersons in like 30 years. I've never known a white guy who was ever truly offended by a racial slur toward them.

As to Oriental, I used that longer than I should've, and had to be embarrasingly corrected by a Chinese friend to say "Asian". And that was like 12 or more years ago so I'd say that ship has sailed.

 

[Sindatur]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Is it politically correct for a Caucasian to bitch about being called a honky? I haven't a fucking clue anymore.

I'm still confused about usage of the word "Oriental," since that what I was taught. Also, my town had restaurants such as "The Oriental Inn" when I was growing up. I'm so confused.

I haven't heard the word honky outside like The Jeffersons in like 30 years. I've never known a white guy who was ever truly offended by a racial slur toward them.

As to Oriental, I used that longer than I should've, and had to be embarrasingly corrected by a Chinese friend to say "Asian". And that was like 12 or more years ago so I'd say that ship has sailed.

Try being a 6-8 year old whiteboy, in a predominately black neighborhood in the early 1970s, or an 11-14 year old girl. Of course now, on the internet or TV/Movies, I pretty well slough it off, but, in person, if someone gets in my face with it, I'm absolutely offended by it, same as being called any other name.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Probably because Oriental is a word describing things like rugs and cuisine from the east, the far east and not people because Asian people are simply an uptight bunch. Believe you me.

Aha, this seems to be true. I think you might have a point here. Thanks.

I haven't heard the word honky outside like The Jeffersons in like 30 years. I've never known a white guy who was ever truly offended by a racial slur toward them.

As to Oriental, I used that longer than I should've, and had to be embarrasingly corrected by a Chinese friend to say "Asian". And that was like 12 or more years ago so I'd say that ship has sailed.

Try being a 6-8 year old whiteboy, in a predominately black neighborhood in the early 1970s, or an 11-14 year old girl. Of course now, on the internet or TV/Movies, I pretty well slough it off, but, in person, if someone gets in my face with it, I'm absolutely offended by it, same as being called any other name.

I've never been offended by the word "honky," but I've been confused about whether I've been offensive to others in my failure to be offended by it. It's a word that's just too out of left field for me to find it offensive. I've always felt like the word does enough by itself to humiliate those who speak it, because it sounds really dumb.

Now if it were instead "hankie," that would be crossing a definite Rubicon.

However, once in high school someone called me a "honky," among numerous other things, in anger. I really think he was angry because I was white and he was black. At that point, his anger was impossible to ignore or slough off. Then, I took issue with the tone, but not the word. Even though I was in a situation, it was hard for me not to burst out laughing every time he said it. Really, it sounds dumb.

But, Temis, you win with the term Honkywood/Honkeywood. Honkeywood, for the actual win!

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

I haven't heard the word honky outside like The Jeffersons in like 30 years.

Which is why it's just silly at this point.

I can't claim to have invented the term Honkywood. And I just realized they blatantly skewed things in that article by ignoring Jason Momoa starring in Conan (to be released in August) despite not looking Cimmerian enough.

 

[Corwwyn]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

The Middle East is also part of Asia. I'm still waiting for Temis to tell me how referring to a third of the population of the world as 'Asian' is somehow acceptable. And not difficult, of course.

In the context of physical appearance people from Southeast Asia, China, Mongolia, Taiwan, Japan, perhaps the Philippines are somewhat similar. A person of "Indian appearance" is dissimilar to the extent that they would not be confused on superficial examination with someone of "Asian appearance".

Again, someone of "Middle-Eastern Appearance" would be dissimilar again, as would someone of "Northern European appearance", "Southern European appearance" etc., ad reductio excruiatingus.

In the context of this thread "Asian" is not a term inclusive of every millimetre of land defined as part of the continent of Asia.

But you'd definitely include Chinese and Japanese looking people as being "Asian-looking," right?

Oh, most definitely.

 

[Corwwyn]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

The Middle East is also part of Asia. I'm still waiting for Temis to tell me how referring to a third of the population of the world as 'Asian' is somehow acceptable. And not difficult, of course.

A person of "Indian appearance" is dissimilar to the extent that they would not be confused on superficial examination with someone of "Asian appearance".

Well that's clearly problematical since everyone from the Indian sub-continent in the UK refers to themselves as Asian. This is a US blanket generalism which doesn't actually correspond to any other culture's. If you accept it as such and that it is a flawed generalism then fine. Arguing that your generalism is somehow more pure than what Asian people actually call themselves is self-defeating, if I may say so.

Meh. It's just a way of describing someone's gross appearance (the policeman would not want to pick up a Sri Lankan guy instead of a Japanese perpetrator by mistake just because the description he or she was given was "Asian appearance, 175cm tall", etc).

p.s. none of the Indian folks I know have ever referred to themselves as Asian afaik, but I'm not from the UK. Of course, I'm not from the US either.

 

[Sean Aaron]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

p.s. none of the Indian folks I know have ever referred to themselves as Asian afaik, but I'm not from the UK. Of course, I'm not from the US either.

In the UK (as stated) Asian = South Asian if you don't qualify it further. I've never heard anyone use a blanket term to refer to people from East Asia myself, maybe because you just say Chinese for Chinese and other Asian ethnic groups in the UK are too small to be counted?

Anyway I say East Asian and South Asian and West Asian for clarification.

"Oriental" is too broad and includes pretty much everyone who isn't white that lives east of Europe: Turks, Chinese, etc. It's archaic and really shouldn't be used in casual conversation.

Back on-topic it would be refreshing to see a mass-market Hollywood film with a predominantly Asian cast from whatever ethnic background, but I won't hold my breath. Really better to just ignore Hollywood altogether as most cinema is trash anyway.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

p.s. none of the Indian folks I know have ever referred to themselves as Asian afaik, but I'm not from the UK. Of course, I'm not from the US either.

Yeah... my Indian wife refers to herself as either Indian or South Asian. But, I don't know what she would've called herself before she came to the US. Probably Desi.

 

[Level 2 Diagnostic]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Sorry to interrupt with Akira news, but the rumor is Keanu Reeves might play the lead. Keanu is part Chinese. Does this make it all better now?

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Re: Racebending and other Asian-Americans speak up against Akira white

Sorry to interrupt with Akira news, but the rumor is Keanu Reeves might play the lead. Keanu is part Chinese. Does this make it all better now?

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