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Question for you concerning children

Miss Chicken

Little three legged cat with attitude
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I know there are people here who don't like children at all, this question isn't aimed at them but at the others who love/like/tolerate children.

What is your favourite age group for children, if you have one?

Personally I think children are at their most interesting between the ages of 4 to about 8 years because at this age they still find learning and school to be fun and not a chore.
 
Well they aren't children I suppose, but I love babies when they are not totally delicate anymore but just really fat and cute and making lots of noises. Maybe when they're not quite one? You know, the fat cheeks and rolls of fat passing as arms and legs.
 
Infants & kids 5 to 12. Toddlers just take too much out of me, and the teen years are bit too snotty. But it really depends on the kid.
 
Nice question! :)

I'm very fond of children, though I'm not always good at relating to them (too self-conscious, really). I'm pretty sure I'd be confident enough with my own should I have them, but I'm always a bit uncertain in how I should act with those of other people.

Ideally, I believe children should be born, spend a year and a half or so as babies (I have strong positive reactions to infants, to the degree that if I'm feeling particularly broody my brain will shriek "BABY!" in delight when I see one, and then it's impossible for me to ignore it), then bypass the troubling toddler age and the first few years after it, and settle instantly into being about seven. Then I have a steady appreciation for a few years, before it peaks at around 11-12. 12-14 was the hardest time of my life, so I tend to be very tender and overly protective in how I relate emotionally to children of that age. The moodiness, etc, probably puts a lot of people off, but I have too much selfish empathy to feel alienated by them, unless they're really obnoxious ;).

Someone once said that part of him was 40 when he was 8 and part of him remained 8 when he was 40, and I think the general idea behind that is true of everyone. But at 12-14 you can really see sometimes both the child and the adult they're going to start growing into. I envy the parents, who get to observe that transition over months and years; I'm only blessed with a glimpse of it at odd moments. :)
 
Well they aren't children I suppose, but I love babies when they are not totally delicate anymore but just really fat and cute and making lots of noises. Maybe when they're not quite one? You know, the fat cheeks and rolls of fat passing as arms and legs.

I quite like older babies around the 9 month age mark. Before they are too mobile. I find very young babies less appealing.
 
If we're talking about the appeal of children, I encountered two the other day who caught my notice because they had all the right qualities to strike me as endearing. Their faces were cheerful and lively but they weren't excitable, they were quiet and calm; very watchful. They seemed vibrant and engaged with the world, but reflective rather than demanding or excitable. They talked happily among themselves in quiet voices, not all the time, but when they had something to say, and they were seemingly very content in each other's company. I'm certain they were twins, so that's maybe to be expected (I have a strong appreciation for twins, too, so that made it even better). Funnily enough, I couldn't determine their sex with any certainty; I'm pretty sure they were boys, but it was difficult to tell (their hair wasn't shorn particularly short, there was nothing about their dress or manner that lent itelf to gender stereotypes, and they were too young to exhibit secondary sexual characteristics). I watched them for a little while while I was waiting to be served.

I don't like it when children are surly or demanding in public - it affects the efficiency of my rose-tinted glasses! :lol: These two were cooperative with my vision.
 
Nice question! :)

I'm very fond of children, though I'm not always good at relating to them (too self-conscious, really). I'm pretty sure I'd be confident enough with my own should I have them, but I'm always a bit uncertain in how I should act with those of other people.
Children are people, there's no reason to feel self-conscious around them. I can't remember what it was from...some show I watched years ago or something...but there was a great quote about how to treat children, "You have to treat them like adults. Tiny, stupid adults."
Ideally, I believe children should be born, spend a year and a half or so as babies (I have strong positive reactions to infants, to the degree that if I'm feeling particularly broody my brain will shriek "BABY!" in delight when I see one, and then it's impossible for me to ignore it), then bypass the troubling toddler age and the first few years after it, and settle instantly into being about seven.
I completely disagree! Infants are lumps! They're adorable and all, but pretty much all they do is shit and cry. Personally I think they only really start to get fun around 6-9 months, when they develop personalities. Toddlers are great fun! Their baby-cuteness is still intact, but is combined with development at an amazing pace -- something so mundane as learning to talk, and walk, and reason, and imagine, things that happen every day are so amazing when you witness them first-hand.
Then I have a steady appreciation for a few years, before it peaks at around 11-12. 12-14 was the hardest time of my life, so I tend to be very tender and overly protective in how I relate emotionally to children of that age. The moodiness, etc, probably puts a lot of people off, but I have too much selfish empathy to feel alienated by them, unless they're really obnoxious ;).
Here we agree. Everyone is evil between the ages of 11-15. Evil, rotten, litte bastards.

I was a teacher for 5 years. I taught kindergarten through 2nd grade, and that's a really fun age range to teach.
 
Having a three and half year old and a two year old, I might be a little bias. However my favorite time so far has been when they turn one years old to about two years old. The time before the "terrible twos" start. I still have a lot of time ahead of me, so check back in a few years.
 
I like little kids until they turn 3. Then I don't like them again until they're about 22.

I think humans are at their most unappealing around the 7-year mark. Lanky. Missing teeth. Awkwardly shaped. First graders are ugly.
 
Having a three and half year old and a two year old, I might be a little bias. However my favorite time so far has been when they turn one years old to about two years old. The time before the "terrible twos" start. I still have a lot of time ahead of me, so check back in a few years.

I agree with you that between one and two is a magical time. I worked with this age group for a couple of years when my own kids were older, and I love watching how young children explore the world around them. They're too young to be self-conscious and see wonder in everything. They're hard work at that age, but hardly ever boring. For this same reason I prefer kindergarten-aged children to older primary school-aged children.

I currently have two teenagers and a preteen, so I have a bias towards teenagers. Teens on the whole get such a bad rap. When you actually get to know them most of them are good people. Okay, they may have some attitude issues, but so do a lot of adults. Just sitting down with my teens and shooting the breeze with them is one of my favourite things to do. I'd much rather spend time with them than a lot of adults I know.
 
I was not particularly fond of kids, but since then I started to work with them some times (science outreach programmes and such), I discovered I was more irked by the behaviour of adults around them than by the kids themselves. The constant coaxing, the silly voices, the inability to engage them, or on the other side the anger, the shouting, the tyrannical disposition than only incites rebelliousness. Kids are fine: but they make adults into idiots.

I found that if you treat them with respect, establish clear boundaries, and don't let the drag you at their emotional level, you can work with them just fine.

As for my favourite age, my experience is limited to school ages, so I know next to nothing from 0 to 6. But between 7 and 18, I'd say that my un-favourite age is 11-14, around middle school: younger kids are more curious and open, while older kids are more mature and thoughtfull (and if they aren't, at least they are not as loud). Between 11 and 14 they are little balls of hate, rage, sullenness and selfishness.
 
Children are people, there's no reason to feel self-conscious around them. I can't remember what it was from...some show I watched years ago or something...but there was a great quote about how to treat children, "You have to treat them like adults. Tiny, stupid adults."
This. I do not understood the people who totally change when they deal with children. Seems very tiresome to constantly act and I think that children neither mind nor appreciate it.
It's like with children books, the best ones take their audience seriously whereas the bad ones adopt a perspective the author assumes children like.
 
since then I started to work with them some times (science outreach programmes and such), I discovered I was more irked by the behaviour of adults around them than by the kids themselves. The constant coaxing, the silly voices, the inability to engage them, or on the other side the anger, the shouting, the tyrannical disposition than only incites rebelliousness. Kids are fine: but they make adults into idiots.

I found that if you treat them with respect, establish clear boundaries, and don't let the drag you at their emotional level, you can work with them just fine.

Once again the Iguana speaks wisely. :) The majority of kids are fun to be with if you respect them as individuals and let that individuality come through. When I was working at children's centres those children who were, shall we say, not always likeable most often had messed up home lives. Most kids are remarkably resilient, but they still need respect and clear guidance.
 
i like kids, as long as they're well behaved, of any age.

although, granted, i've never really dealt with too many of the particularly young ones which are pretty much just a mobile digestive tract, all food, shit and piss and not much else.

as for the whole thing about how to treat them, i treat them as people. i just try to make sure i don't use complicated concepts they might not grasp and avoid strong language.
 
...I discovered I was more irked by the behaviour of adults around them than by the kids themselves. The constant coaxing, the silly voices, the inability to engage them, or on the other side the anger, the shouting, the tyrannical disposition than only incites rebelliousness. Kids are fine: but they make adults into idiots.

Oh, I agree. I try to check the urge to be judgemental, because raising children is extremely difficult to put it mildly, but I see far too many parents who seem to view their children not as individual beings but as extensions of the parent's will. They feed them, dress them, boss them around, and get irked when they fail to trail along behind like tethered balloons, but they don't seem to talk with the children, ask them questions, listen to them or engage in any sort of productive two-way exchange. They don't seem to comprehend the child as a person. I've often heard talk about the selfishness of childhood, but, in my area at least, it's often the parents who come across as self-centred. They don't seem to appreciate that they're in a long-term relationship with another being, that just because it's by necessity an unequal partnership that doesn't strip the child of its individuality. To be honest, I don't really understand how they fail to find their children's developing minds engaging, but I just don't see any real investment.

I guess I encounter too many parents who think raising a child means providing them with food, clothing, a roof over their head and a list of "don'ts", and nothing more. Again, I try to resist the urge to judge, particularly based on such limited exposure that I'm getting in each case, but, still, it's hard and it does concern me.

And I particularly dislike the silly voices, yes. Why people feel the need to alter their voice around younger children, I don't know. Imitating a supposed child-like manner, I suppose, which doesn't make sense to me. Young children already know how to be infants; they're looking to you to demonstrate how to be adults. You're not supposed to be descending to their level, but providing something they can learn from and aspire to.

But...all that said...one of the reasons I find interacting with other people's children a bit difficult (at least since I hit adulthood; I had no such self-conscious insecurities as an older teenager) is precisely because treating children like brainless aliens seems to be the acceptable practice around here. Interacting with a child the way you would an adult, without (excuse the expression) using kiddie-gloves can get you some strange or ugly looks. As an adult, I've become a bit wary.
 
we've got plenty of parents like that around here too, from what i saw in my 14 years in retail.

parents who, frankly, needed taking outside and being given a goddamn slap.
 
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