There's actually an Andorian on Lower Decks whose name conforms to the LitVerse's naming scheme.
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You and everyone else claim so. I am not convinced Jennifer Sh'reyan qualifies.
I mean it's literally a litverse style last name for an Andorian of one of their feminine genders. How can that not qualify?
No, I do not think so.
https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1507790980304424961
Terry Matalas tweeted in advance of PIC 2.10 to the effect of going further than VOY 3.08 in reconciling Trek with real-life at the time of broadcast. His team concluded Spock was wrong in TOS 1.22 about his dates due to record destruction, thereby precipitating Pike in SNW 1.01 giving the sequence of the Second Civil War --> Eugenics War --> World War III, with the first one recycling real-life 2010s-2020s footage from the Trump presidency.
That may be what they intended, but I stand by what I said: Assuming that the eugenics program was always exclusively about Khan is a profound misunderstanding of "Space Seed." The idea of a "Project Khan" only makes sense after the fact. If the makers of PIC season 2 intended differently, it still doesn't make sense, any more than anything else about PIC season 2 made sense.
How so?
I'm not fully convinced of that, but it's been a long time since I read Typhon Pact: Seize the Fire, but doesn't it establish that different castes of Gorn society are genetically engineered? I think it's possible that the Gorn we hear of in "Momento Mori" and see in "All Those Who Wander" might be the product of extensive genetic modification, rather than representatives of normal Gorn society.
For that matter, it's also worth remembering that it's not clear that the Gorn we see in SNW S1 are agents of the Gorn state or space service. We get almost no cultural context for them. It's entirely possible they're pirates, for instance.
Not convinced of that. Sturka was Klingon Chancellor in 2265 at the start of Vanguard: Harbinger. The last we saw of the Klingons, it was 2258 and L'Rell was Chancellor. So there are six years for L'Rell to lose power yet, and we have no idea where SNW will go with her, if it does anything with her. At this time, L'Rell as Chancellor in 2257-58 is broadly compatible with VAN.
Is it? I think the apparent contradictions might be reconcilable. DIS makes it clear that the Empire was riven by civil wars and pretenders to the throne, we don't actually see Emperor Georgiou rule on Earth itself, and The Sorrows of Empire is pretty vague in its descriptions of the reigns of Sato I, Sato II, and Sato III. We know from Sorrows that Sato II is in power on Earth at the end of her life in 2268. It's not impossible that Sato II may have reigned unchallenged earlier, but that she was de facto overthrown and exiled in the 2250s by Georgiou before returning to power upon Georgiou's disappearance into the Prime Universe, all the while maintaining that she was always the "real" Emperor/Empress and that Georgiou was a pretender.
I mean, sure, but creative intent is not the same thing as actually establishing it onscreen. All that is explicitly established canonically is that there's a project from 1996 called "Project Khan" that Adam Soong learns of.
Just because something may appear irreconcilable does not render it unjustifiable, if one wants to go to the effort.
Personally, I’ve always been good with multiple takes of the same setting, so I don’ particularly feel the strict need to make that effort, or at least have it be any more complicated than it has to be.
Personally, I’ve always been good with multiple takes of the same setting, so I don’ particularly feel the strict need to make that effort, or at least have it be any more complicated than it has to be.
Picard Season 2 was more of a homage to Star Trek IV than anything else. And it basically showed Troi as a failure as a consoler. Fingers crossed for Season 3.
How was she a failure? A therapist can only address the issues their subject can or will discuss. Picard never came to her to deal with any unresolved issues related to his mother, and it never manifested as issues with his duties. We’re talking about a man in his late fifties by the time he even meets Troi, his coping mechanics were well in place by then, and so far as we saw, he never approached her for advice on why he couldn’t connect on that deeper emotional level that are considered part of romantic relationships, or about any lingering trauma related to his mother’s death.
For that matter, many issues don’t manifest for years or decades, especially when it comes to abuse and trauma suffered in childhood. I mean, just to bring up the obvious, we didn’t even hear Sir Patrick Stewart acknowledge the abuse he suffered as a child until, what was it, the late 2000s, early 2010s? When he was in his sixties/seventies?
A therapist is supposed to help guide their patients to answers they’re ready for, while also not causing negative responses by pushing them to something too soon. Troi was certainly not the only therapist Picard saw over his life - I’m sure he was evaluated by other therapists after Wolf 359, saying nothing of Troi’s successor on the Enterprise and certainly others during the Romulan refugee crisis, and none of them addressed this issue either.
I’m sure my therapist has thoughts about things that I’ve spoken about that could lead to discussions of other issues, I’ve been seeing my current therapist for about four years now. But he has to weigh bringing any of them up with the fact that I may not be ready to discuss them - if a patient is not ready, will not discuss something, bringing it up unprompted and trying to make them do so anyway can just destroy the bond of trust and willingness to open up between patient and therapist.
Picard’s issues about his mother were never something he pursued discussing with Troi, so far as we’ve seen. As a result, she had no real justification just dropping on him unprompted.
Wow, thanks for sharing that. Those are great insights.
2003 was the first time I remember hearing about it, when A&E's Biography did an episode about him.
She's an empath. She should have felt it. Why can't Picard commit? It could be a Hallmark Christmas movie.
That doesn't contradict what DG said. DG's point was that even when a therapist knows something is troubling a patient, they won't confront the patient about it or pressure them to talk about it until they're ready. The therapist does not dictate the course of the therapy; the patient does.
Essentially, she knows when to MYOB.
Her mother's habit of taunting Picard with (likely spurious) accusations of "naughty thoughts" and JL's discomfort with it would have discouraged her from being a busybody. Goodness knows what she discusses about others with her husband in confidence, though.
Her mother's habit of taunting Picard with (likely spurious) accusations of "naughty thoughts" and JL's discomfort with it would have discouraged her from being a busybody. Goodness knows what she discusses about others with her husband in confidence, though.
Tell me you don't know how therapy works without telling me you don't know how therapy works.
Like, what exactly do you want her to do? She's read his file; she knows that his mother committed suicide when he was a kid. She also knows that Jack Crusher died under his command and probably senses that he's in love with Beverly. So, yeah, she probably knows that Jean-Luc is all kinds of fucked up in his personal life. But if he sets a boundary of not being willing to discuss this with her, there's nothing she can do. She has authority as a medical officer to order him to accept mental health treatment insofar as his mental health issues affect the performance of his duties. But his inability to maintain stable intimate relationships clearly never affected his job performance. Being in Starfleet doesn't mean Deanna gets to order him to deal with his mommy issues so he can finally start dating.
Even in Picard's season 2 premiere, we see Guinan (who people often joke is a better therapist than Deanna) can tell Picard's commitment issues is a painful subject for him and decides to end that avenue of the conversation.
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