question about the history of the House of Kor

[Extrocomp]

In The Unhappy Ones and Live By The Code, it is explained that Kor's grandfather changed his house's name from House of Kor to House of Mur'Eq to remind everyone that he is descended from Emperor Mur'Eq.

But according to Excelsior: Forged In Fire, Kor's house is the House of Ngoj. He is referred to as "Captain Kor of the House of Ngoj" and it's mentioned that Kor worked all his life to rebuild the House of Ngoj after the scandal. Although another page in the same book says that Kor's own house was built from the residual wealth of the House of Ngoj and that it's called the House of Kor.

And in Dwellers In The Crucible, Kor is referred to as Kor epetai Zareht, but I assume that's a separate continuity.

So is this all a continuity error or am I missing something?

 

[DimesDan]

Or it's down to the fact that different authors don't need to adhere to what others have done, it just tends to be a courtesy between them.

 

[Christopher]

I ran into the inconsistency between "The Unhappy Ones" and Forged in Fire when researching Kor's family history for Live by the Code. Here's the reconciliation I came up with in my development notes:

[House of] Mur’Eq: Called House of Kor until 2155. Renamed to Mur’Eq by Kor, son of Kaltar. Later led by Rynar, who kept name; but sometime in early 23rd century, was taken over by cousin of Rynar named Ngoj. Known as House of Ngoj until Kor, son of Rynar took control.

After all, Klingon houses do tend to change their names a lot, depending on who runs them.

 

[Extrocomp]

According to Forged In Fire, the House of Ngoj was already established in 2218, which would mean that the scene with Kor as a child in The Unhappy Ones (when the House of Mur'Eq is mentioned) would have to take place earlier.

This is probably why Klingons don't use linenames anymore. All the name changes would confuse the hell out of everyone and the ___, son of ___ format is much simpler.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

This is probably why Klingons don't use linenames anymore.

They don't? I thought a Klingon could read his or her name in either format. Indeed, hasn't Koloth's name been presented this way? (I've seen his name written as "Koloth vestai-Lasshar", and also as "Koloth, son of Lasshar".)

 

[Christopher]

But John M. Ford didn't use "vestai" to mean "son of." The various "tai" formations were honorifics indicating earned status. So Krenn started out as Krenn tai-Rustazh, and then moved up to vestai-Rustazh and then sutai-Rustazh as he gained in status, and if he'd continued to gain, he would've gone up to zantai-Rustazh and ultimately epetai-Rustazh. And Rustazh was a family name from his ancestors, not the given name of his father.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

But John M. Ford didn't use "vestai" to mean "son of."

Yes, I'm well aware of that. My point stands.

 

[Extrocomp]

Koloth vestai-Lasshar can be reconciled with Koloth, son of Lasshar since Lasshar is likely to be the name of Koloth's house. Kor epetai Zareht, on the other hand, no longer fits with what we know about Kor's house.