Question About "Storm Front, Part II"

[Dee1891]

I'm a little confused about "Storm Fron, Part II" from Season Four. According to Malcolm Reed, divergence from the timeline began when Lenin was murdered in 1916 and his killer "vanished into thin air." Yet, it was the Enterprise's destruction of the Na'kuhl complex's shields in 1944 that reset the timeline back to normal. Why? Wouldn't it have been better if the writers had found a way to prevent Lenin's murder in 1916?

 

[FederationHistorian]

Its basically alluded that Vosk or one of the other Na’kuhl killed Lenin and changed the timeline. And if Vosk was able to get the conduit up and running and travel through it, he was cause irreparable damage to not just that timeline, but every timeline possible in every universe. Hence why they were called the most dangerous faction of the Temporal Cold War. By stopping Vosk before he stepped though, the damage done to the timeline could be repaired, likely by other temporal agents.

The writers just hit the fast forwards button on that explanation because they wanted to move on from the Temporal Cold War altogether and focus on how the Federation was formed.

 

[Jedi Marso]

This is a rare case where I've never re-watched either of these episodes after the first time, and completely struck them from my head-canon as having never happened. AFAIC, the Xindi are defeated in "Zero-Hour" and the Enterprise returns to Earth. S4 begins with the third episode, "Home."

That 'twist' at the end of the third season was a handful of monkey-shit flung by the burned out, butt-hurt, freshly fired show runners. I simply refuse to let it stick.

 

[Dee1891]

Its basically alluded that Vosk or one of the other Na’kuhl killed Lenin and changed the timeline. And if Vosk was able to get the conduit up and running and travel through it, he was cause irreparable damage to not just that timeline, but every timeline possible in every universe. Hence why they were called the most dangerous faction of the Temporal Cold War. By stopping Vosk before he stepped though, the damage done to the timeline could be repaired, likely by other temporal agents.

The writers just hit the fast forwards button on that explanation because they wanted to move on from the Temporal Cold War altogether and focus on how the Federation was formed.

Sounds like it was contrived writing that marked the ending of "Storm Front".

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

This is a rare case where I've never re-watched either of these episodes after the first time, and completely struck them from my head-canon as having never happened. AFAIC, the Xindi are defeated in "Zero-Hour" and the Enterprise returns to Earth. S4 begins with the third episode, "Home."

That 'twist' at the end of the third season was a handful of monkey-shit flung by the burned out, butt-hurt, freshly fired show runners. I simply refuse to let it stick.

It was the really cheesy "resetting of the timeline" scene that ruined it for me. It would literally be instantaneous.

 

[NCC-73515]

This is a rare case where I've never re-watched either of these episodes after the first time, and completely struck them from my head-canon as having never happened. AFAIC, the Xindi are defeated in "Zero-Hour" and the Enterprise returns to Earth. S4 begins with the third episode, "Home."

That 'twist' at the end of the third season was a handful of monkey-shit flung by the burned out, butt-hurt, freshly fired show runners. I simply refuse to let it stick.

I found it amazing

 

[Jedi Marso]

I found it amazing

Different strokes for different folks. It's all good!

 

[FederationHistorian]

Sounds like it was contrived writing that marked the ending of "Storm Front".

Yeah. They could have wrapped up the WW2 arc in one episode, and revisit the end of the Temporal Cold War later on in the season, where they could have featured both Silik and Future Guy and revealed the identity of Future Guy in the process. Instead, they rushed the ending and have left some loose threads hanging around I’m not sure if they will ever be resolved.

 

[Farscape One]

I didn't like either episode, but the only saving grace of them was that it finally ended the TCW. I HATED that arc with a passion, and I was THRILLED that it was over.

The entire purpose of that two-parter was to end the TCW. Manny Coto had a tough task finishing it up because Berman and Braga wrote that in the last scene. Kudos to him for doing his best with what he had to finish.

 

[F. King Daniel]

They made a point that effect was preceeding cause. So basically anything that they say resolves the plot, resolves the plot.

 

[MarkusTay]

'Future Guy' may have been Gary Seven. Or worse, Will Wheaton. LOL

I found the end of the series terribly rushed, and can't understand why they wasted two whole episodes on the mirror universe that meant absolutely nothing to the prime universe. Even seeing Hoshi in her halfy-shirt wasn't enough to make up for the bad taste that left in my mouth. I didn't mind the ending-ending, though, because I felt like that was a very clever, in-universe way of hand-waving any anachronisms/inconsistencies we had (the entire series was a dramatization of actual events). Thus, maybe the real T'Pol never got nakit quite so often. I bet Paris wrote that Holo-program, the creep.

Oh, and the whole "Nazis were working with aliens" comes from conspiracy theories. The writers probably thought they were being clever. 'Little Green Men' did it better.

 

[FederationHistorian]

can't understand why they wasted two whole episodes on the mirror universe that meant absolutely nothing to the prime universe.

Except it did, since it’s a prequel to “The Tholian Web”. You can argue if that tie in was really necessary, but its still matters to the prime universe.

Just because Archer and his crew did not meet their mirror universe counterparts does not negate its value to the prime universe.

I didn't mind the ending-ending, though, because I felt like that was a very clever, in-universe way of hand-waving any anachronisms/inconsistencies we had (the entire series was a dramatization of actual events).

The Temporal Cold War was already a clever way to address the anachronisms/inconsistencies in the series. Basically, the end result of constantly time travel back and forth - something is always being changed and altered in the past and having ripple effects through time.

 

[dupersuper]

can't understand why they wasted two whole episodes on the mirror universe

Because it was awesome?

Wasted? Pshaw.