Didn't the Organians already know that their planet was in a strategically significant area of space? If they felt that bothered by other races, they could have just moved to another planet where no one would ever bother going.
Question about Klingons/Organa and war
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Why should they move? That makes no sense at all.
And who's going to make them?
When the biggest kid in class tells you to leave him alone, you leave him alone. And i don't think a battle between Klingons and Organians would be much of a battle much less a war. The Organian "treaty" was essentially the Organians PREVENTING the Klingons and humans from fighting each other through force of will. The implication is that a single Organian could immobilize both fleets at will.
That same will could very easily have destroyed the Klingon fleet or Q'ono'S or anything in between.
It would be the shortest most one-sided war on record.
And who's going to make them?
When the biggest kid in class tells you to leave him alone, you leave him alone. And i don't think a battle between Klingons and Organians would be much of a battle much less a war. The Organian "treaty" was essentially the Organians PREVENTING the Klingons and humans from fighting each other through force of will. The implication is that a single Organian could immobilize both fleets at will.
That same will could very easily have destroyed the Klingon fleet or Q'ono'S or anything in between.
It would be the shortest most one-sided war on record.
I don't mean being forced to move, I mean the Organians *choosing* to move if their existing homeworld is constantly being visited by organic beings.
And we know they can do it, too. Didn't one of the Organians even say that he was (simultaneously) appearing in the council chambers of the Federation and the Klingon Empire to announce the terms of the peace treaty? If they can do that, they can do anything.
Why should they move their home when they can tell the kids to leave them alone and then make them do it? If the Empire and the Federation can't get along, it's got nothing to do with Organia.
Organia: "Find a way to kill each other that doesn't involve us. Or, even better, find a way to get along. But, either way, leave us alone. Or else."
Organia: "Find a way to kill each other that doesn't involve us. Or, even better, find a way to get along. But, either way, leave us alone. Or else."
Look, if they stay on their homeworld despite no longer needing to exist on a corporeal plane, obviously they're attached to the old place. They like it there, they want to be there, and they're sure as hell not gonna let mere bags of talking protoplasm drive them off of it for any reason.
Besides, who said it's "constantly" being visited? We're aware of only one canonical visit and very few others in tie-in fiction.
Exactly. If they can do anything, that includes staying on their old homeworld if they feel like it.
And who knows? Maybe there's a reason they stay on Organia. We don't know how incorporeal existence works or how many kinds of it there might be; maybe the Organian variety involves some kind of symbiosis with the planet they're on. Maybe the geological structure of its core or mantle helps sustain them, or maybe its magnetic field is particularly invigorating to them. Who knows? Like you say, they can do whatever they feel like, and clearly they feel like staying on Organia and being left alone.
well, they do venture off-planet in "Observer Effect" in ENT S4...some way off, i believe...
There was nothing in "Observer Effect" about the observers being a splinter group. That comes from my The Buried Age. The "Organians" in that episode had exactly nothing in common with the Organians of "Errand of Mercy" aside from being incorporeal; their interest in exploring stuff and possessing humanoid bodies was incompatible with the EoM Organians' emphatic expressions of distaste toward interaction with corporeal beings. So I figured they had to be an offshoot that ascribed to a different value system and was considered uncouth by the planetbound Organians.
The idea that the Organians would intervene to stop a conflict between the two powers seems to have been dropped as early as the second season of the original series. In "A Private Little War" Kirk mentions that if the Klingons are found violating the treaty, it could result in "insterstellar war".
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