Do all borg ships start off as another alien vessle that the borg assimilate, then keep adding on to it like in ENT. Or do they manufacture most of or any of them?
Question about borg ships?
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I'd think there would always be enough space flotsam for them to assimilate and use as seeds for their vessels.
Remember that if the Borg can be taken for their own word, they are not a conventional culture out to conquer everybody else. Their aim is to improve the quality of life of others, in a benign crusade fashion. They won't assimilate their enemies or innocent bystanders in order to weaken the ranks of the enemy or strenghten their own. They assimilate in order to make life better for the assimilees!
By the same logic, the Borg wouldn't necessarily build ships just to build ships - but to make use of material gained while improving lives. Usually, the quest to help their fellow humanoids wouldn't require dedicated shipbuilding over what can be achieved through assimilation of ships...
Timo Saloniemi
Remember that if the Borg can be taken for their own word, they are not a conventional culture out to conquer everybody else. Their aim is to improve the quality of life of others, in a benign crusade fashion. They won't assimilate their enemies or innocent bystanders in order to weaken the ranks of the enemy or strenghten their own. They assimilate in order to make life better for the assimilees!
By the same logic, the Borg wouldn't necessarily build ships just to build ships - but to make use of material gained while improving lives. Usually, the quest to help their fellow humanoids wouldn't require dedicated shipbuilding over what can be achieved through assimilation of ships...
Timo Saloniemi
The Borg are predominantly constructing their own ships in order to consume technology and assimilate species they find worthy of said assimilation.
Newly assimilated vessels don't really get transformed into cubes/spheres (at least, nothing really indicates that).
The transport in Enterprise was heavily assimilated by the end of the episode, but did not resemble a a cube to begin with.
Just a transport heavily engulfed in Borg technology that was being continuously hyper advanced by nanoprobes.
The Borg can find numerous inefficient aspects in a human made ship for example and turn those into something that is in fact efficient to them, which is why they were able to do to it what they did.
Newly assimilated vessels don't really get transformed into cubes/spheres (at least, nothing really indicates that).
The transport in Enterprise was heavily assimilated by the end of the episode, but did not resemble a a cube to begin with.
Just a transport heavily engulfed in Borg technology that was being continuously hyper advanced by nanoprobes.
The Borg can find numerous inefficient aspects in a human made ship for example and turn those into something that is in fact efficient to them, which is why they were able to do to it what they did.
Of course not to begin with - but it did seem to be in the process of transforming into something like a small cube.
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/borgified-arctic-explorer-final-stage/
The bow and stern views show how the original contours are being hidden by a rectangular frame that begins to grow from lower port to both up and port...
I'd think it likelier that they would tear apart human machinery and use the materials to build all-new Borg machines that do the job better. This transport from "Regeneration" seems to be growing all-new components rather than just reworking existing ones...
Timo Saloniemi
Yea the way I looked at it was that eventually the transpornt in ENT would have kept adding till it took cube shape.
I believe the intent is that when the Borg assimilate a ship, it gradually takes on the shape of the ship the assimilating drones were from. It was intended in Enterprise's Regeneration to eventually see that ship become a Sphere, but they couldn't go through with that for some reason.
In regards to the ship from Descent, it was my understanding that that was another alien ship that Lore's faction took over.
In regards to the ship from Descent, it was my understanding that that was another alien ship that Lore's faction took over.
The obvious original dramatic rationale was that regular Borg are disciplined little machines who build regular shapes, while renegade Borg are wild individuals who build wildly shaped ships. But no, nothing was explained in the episode as such.
However, in VOY "Scorpion", the shape of the vessel used by Lore's renegades was shown on screen when Seven of Nine discussed available Borg technologies with Janeway. It appeared when Seven was talking about Borg mines that could be used against Species 8472. So perhaps the Borg do have the blueprints of that shape of standard vessel, too - but it is only used for special purposes, including minelaying?
Timo Saloniemi
You are right it is probaly a little of both.
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