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Quantum Leap questions

Yeah. it really is more about putting Sam into places for character driven adventure and morality plays mostly.

The show would work mostly the same if Sam were not a time traveler but some sort of mystical angel.

Almost doesn't matter how he gets where he has to go.
 
Yeah, it was a good show but at a certain point I don't even think it was *trying* to make sense of the "science" behind what was happening. Hell, it reached a point where it even stopped trying to make the futuristic technology look like something that could exist in the next decade rather than something made out of clear Lego. See: The evolution of Al's comlink culminating into the look of the QL:Project headquarters/base when Sam leaps back to the "present." That place was a compound that might as well have been the Starship Enterprise considering the look of it, how the technology seemed to work and relay information and even the number-dropping of various computer stats.

In the end, though, it does seem that more than not Sam's physical body was leaping (re: the above mentions of times Sam does something his "host" persona wouldn't have been capable of.

But at the same time it does open the problem of how Sam can fit into the clothes of his hosts. And, okay, hand-wave that the "aura" of the host makes Sam *appear* to be that person and sound like them. That doesn't explain how Sam feels when touched. (I.E. When he's a woman how no one notices when touching him he' rough and hairy.) Not to mention how Sam shaves, cuts his hair or, hell, how he stays healthy! What happens if he gets hurt or sick?!

Early-on it seems Al saw Sam as the "host" (see: when he's lusting after Sam as "Samantha" in Sam's first cross-gender leap) but later on (in the final episode, I believe) it's said that Al sees Sam as his "real self."

Think about the show for too long and it really becomes a mess. But, overall, it was a good show.
 
Ahh...I just realized that on Netflix, they start season 1 from episode 3 so I missed the pilot and episode 2. Thats probably why I missed some information.
 
Yeah, it was a good show but at a certain point I don't even think it was *trying* to make sense of the "science" behind what was happening. Hell, it reached a point where it even stopped trying to make the futuristic technology look like something that could exist in the next decade rather than something made out of clear Lego. See: The evolution of Al's comlink culminating into the look of the QL:Project headquarters/base when Sam leaps back to the "present." That place was a compound that might as well have been the Starship Enterprise considering the look of it, how the technology seemed to work and relay information and even the number-dropping of various computer stats.
I don't know if it was intentional - probably just me reading more into something than its creator intended, which happens a lot and I'm usually happier with my interpretation than theirs. :cool: ;) But I took the changes in tech that you're talking about as a sign of Sam's ongoing success. As he made positive changes in people's lives, educations, etc, in the past, he was pushing current-for-him society and technology forward.

There were a couple of episodes that had things happen that support this idea, but it's been long enough that I don't really remember all that well. I think one was something about one of his relatives working for The Project and solving some problem, when she hadn't before he made a change, but now she "always had". Something like that.
 
Ahh...I just realized that on Netflix, they start season 1 from episode 3 so I missed the pilot and episode 2. Thats probably why I missed some information.

Not really, and IIRC there's quite a few episodes missing on Netflix, including the finale. The first episode starts of with Al driving a futuristic car to the QL project headquarters in New Mexico. He gets a call on his phone that Sam is going into the QL accelerator to prove his theories then we go to commercial/break. Next we see Sam waking in the body of a test pilot some time in the 1950s with no memories of who is or what is going on. Eventually things are explained to him through Al the theory being that if Sam "finishes his mission" he'll leap home, instead he leaps to the next host where more-or-less the establishing of the "universe" continues.

Basic introductions to the ideas going on that you've already picked up on, the place of the comlink, Al, how Al communicated with only Sam*, Ziggy being the super-computer back home to offer information, etc. The excuse for giving Sam knowledge or an ability he didn't know he had, er.... his "swiss-cheesed memory."

I don't know if it was intentional - probably just me reading more into something than its creator intended, which happens a lot and I'm usually happier with my interpretation than theirs. But I took the changes in tech that you're talking about as a sign of Sam's ongoing success. As he made positive changes in people's lives, educations, etc, in the past, he was pushing current-for-him society and technology forward.

I'd argue the opposite, though. Because:


In one episode Sam leaps into the body of one of the Secret Service agents assigned to Kennedy. IIRC, it's believed that Sam is there to save Kennedy which he fails to do but he DOES save Jackie O whom Al says died in the "original timeline." This could be taken to suggest the changes Sam was making was to put the timeline into the one we're currently living which actually had a lot less technologically advanced 1990s (when Sam lept from) than was in the show.
 
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I've always had a theory about Quantum Leap. There was an emphasis during the series that it may be God controlling Sam's leaps, and I think that's somewhat true. I believe that when Sam activated the Quantum Leap device, it caused an accident where he bonded with a guardian angel (possibly there to help Sam through the troubles he was having at that time). This kept the basic mechanics of angel abilities in place, but altered their execution due to the new tie to Sam and his machine.

It's a similar thought to that old poem about footprints in the sand. At different points in our lives, we look back at some of our trying times and can't fathom how we got through. In the poem, God says that during that time he carried us. Guardian angels (and by extension Sam) could be God's instrument in that.

A guardian angel would be receiving missions from God (explaining random leaps), but Sam could also take over and guide the journey if he willed it. The angel idea also explains some of the wonky science; Sam's machine probably wouldn't work except for the accident that trapped the angel into being a kind of "power" source.
 
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I think one was something about one of his relatives working for The Project and solving some problem, when she hadn't before he made a change, but now she "always had". Something like that.
Yes, Sammy-Jo Fuller.
Sam's daughter.

I'd argue the opposite, though. Because:
In one episode Sam leaps into the body of one of the Secret Service agents assigned to Kennedy. IIRC, it's believed that Sam is there to save Kennedy which he fails to do but he DOES save Jackie O whom Al says died in the "original timeline." This could be taken to suggest the changes Sam was making was to put the timeline into the one we're currently living which actually had a lot less technologically advanced 1990s (when Sam lept from) than was in the show.
How does that preclude Sam from "updating" the timeline? The leap you're talking about happened and we are none the wiser because history was changed. She was saved after all and we all go on with our lives never knowing that she would have died were it not for the actions of one Sam Beckett.
 
Yeah, it was a good show but at a certain point I don't even think it was *trying* to make sense of the "science" behind what was happening.

Oh, it never was. They never gave a damn about the science. They just took a few random sciencey words and slammed them together without any comprehension or concern for their actual meaning. Their recurring line about how Ziggy was connected to Sam's "neurons and mesons" was nails on a chalkboard for me every time I heard it. Neurons are living cells, mesons are subatomic particles. Treating them as two examples of the same category was agonizingly inept. And I think they used the term "string theory" for something completely unrelated to actual string theory, the idea that a person's lifespan was like a string that could get knotted. Not to mention that an actual quantum leap has nothing whatsoever to do with time travel. It had to be just about the worst abuse of technobabble in television history. Although there is, sadly, abundant competition for that title.
 
I think one was something about one of his relatives working for The Project and solving some problem, when she hadn't before he made a change, but now she "always had". Something like that.
Yes, Sammy-Jo Fuller.
Sam's daughter.

I forgot about her!

She is more evidence for the fact that Sam's body is also leaping, because if that wasn't the case, then Sam could never have fathered her in the first place. She would have been the daughter of the person Sam leaped into, and not of Sam himself.

As for the evil leaper, Alia: If God is behind Sam's leaps, then you know who is probably controlling Alia's... ;) This is also hinted at in the Halloween episode:
In that episode - The Boogieman - the person who we thought was Al in that episode was actually the devil, who angrily berates Sam for "putting right what I made wrong".
 
That Halloween episode scared the shit out of me when I was younger. It's definitely a good one.

As for the science, there's always Bellisario's Maxim. Basically, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. It's not meant to actually be scientific.
 
I've seen people speculating that Alia, etc. is the product of Ziggy going a bit rogue and doing some other person leaping on the side.
 
Hmm, I don't think that would make much sense given what we know of Project Quantum Leap.
 
I'd argue the opposite, though. Because:


In one episode Sam leaps into the body of one of the Secret Service agents assigned to Kennedy. IIRC, it's believed that Sam is there to save Kennedy which he fails to do but he DOES save Jackie O whom Al says died in the "original timeline." This could be taken to suggest the changes Sam was making was to put the timeline into the one we're currently living which actually had a lot less technologically advanced 1990s (when Sam lept from) than was in the show.

I just took that to mean that Sam did not originate from OUR quantum reality, but from one in which she HAD originally died. No predestination paradox necessary. :techman:

I've seen people speculating that Alia, etc. is the product of Ziggy going a bit rogue and doing some other person leaping on the side.
It seems more likely to me that there is simply (at least) one other quantum reality where The Project is something different than the one Sam is part of. However, given Ziggy's quantum computing abilities, I suppose it is possible that she is actually the same entity operating at multiple quantum probability levels for multiple versions of The Project at the same time?
 
As for the science, there's always Bellisario's Maxim. Basically, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. It's not meant to actually be scientific.

Even so, though, it's not just about conformity to real science, it's about establishing consistent ground rules -- even fantasy ones -- and sticking with them. Too many people use fantasy as an excuse to be lazy and sloppy, and that's an abuse of the genre. The problem isn't just that QL's "science" was nonsense compared to real science, but that it wasn't consistent or clear within itself. Like that bit about Al seeing the person Sam leapt into in early episodes but seeing Sam himself later on.
 
The evil leaper could have been from a future further along than Sam's. We have seen this plot device in time travel shows before like Seven Day and Timecop.
 
Yeah, the "string theory" thing always got me too.

I kinda liked it, since it shows later that Sam's string theory for time travel was inspired by a science fiction show he watched as a child.

Seemed a subtle shout out to the kids who watched Star Trek and grew up to create cellphones (communicators), tablets (padds), and so on...
 
There is an episode where Sam leaps into a Vietnam vet who's lost both his legs and when he is walking it seems he is floating on air :)
 
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