Was there ever anything more powerful than the Q? Or were they the rulers of the cosmos?
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As far as I can tell, the Q seemed mostly intent on leaving well enough alone-- while some of their more "enigmatic" sentients had trouble dealing with the monotony of eternity. If we move into DS9 canon the Prophets/Wormhole aliens seem to have similar degrees of power, but are more cryptic/naive than the Q counterparts, who seem to have evolved from a humanoid-like species. So, I wouldn't call them "rulers" -- but I would call them very, very powerful, generally immortal though still existing in a "continuum" which implies they have their own sense of linear time (a theme explored a bit more in some ridiculous Voyager episodes of a warring continuum). Why they meddle in human affairs... I'm not sure. I have some theories.
I would have liked for Picard and the crew to meet a more enlightened, older Q being and/or member of the Q leadership. I liked the Q, but always felt the episodes were more of a comic relief than serious look at an overwhelmingly powerful species.
[/QUOTE] I would have liked for Picard and the crew to meet a more enlightened, older Q being and/or member of the Q leadership. I liked the Q, but always felt the episodes were more of a comic relief than serious look at an overwhelmingly powerful species.[/QUOTE]
I agree! I always thought the Q should have been treated more seriously. Sure, I like John de Lancie as much as the next guy but the Q Continuum could have had more of an impact in Trek cannon if there was at least one episode that was of a serious nature. The Q in my opinion are the most powerful species and it should have been treated as such.
I agree! I always thought the Q should have been treated more seriously. Sure, I like John de Lancie as much as the next guy but the Q Continuum could have had more of an impact in Trek cannon if there was at least one episode that was of a serious nature. The Q in my opinion are the most powerful species and it should have been treated as such.Considering Roddenberry was an Atheist. I would assume he meant the Q to be what people considered gods.
I haven't seen all Trek, but I haven't seen any solid on-screen evidence to suggest that God exists in the Trek universe, especially when you have episodes where it was shown that aliens from the past were responsible for humanoid intelligence in the region (as much as we'd all probably like to forget that episode).
It depends on how you define god.
In this context, I assume God refers to a God defined in any one of Earth's current major religions. For all intents and purposes, the Q are probably omnipotent enough to be considered Gods by most general definitions.
Well, we do know that God doesn't need a starship. According to Kirk, anyway, but what higher authority is there in Trek?
Or gigantic space lizards! (Oh, this is TNG? No matter.)
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I would have liked for Picard and the crew to meet a more enlightened, older Q being and/or member of the Q leadership. I liked the Q, but always felt the episodes were more of a comic relief than serious look at an overwhelmingly powerful species.
Why shouldn't a superior species appear to be comical?
If the Q really are beyond our understanding in terms of power and intelligence, then this might be the most realistic depiction of such a creature.
Why shouldn't a superior species appear to be comical?
If the Q really are beyond our understanding in terms of power and intelligence, then this might be the most realistic depiction of such a creature.
On screen, I remember hearing the Q say that they are responsible for keeping the natural order of the galaxy. Like putting a nebula here or a black hole there and nothing is out of whack. I'm guessing the Continuum will define what "Out of Whack" is.
If you want to go into the books, one of the Q books suggest while there are other powerful beings in the galaxy, every galaxy has one species that is supremely powerful beyond everyone else. In our galaxy, this is the Q, and in another galaxy, their supreme species is called M.
Also, there is a mention in a book that the Continuum warns some of the younger Q to never agitate the Borg. Not sure why that would be, but still...
If you want to go into the books, one of the Q books suggest while there are other powerful beings in the galaxy, every galaxy has one species that is supremely powerful beyond everyone else. In our galaxy, this is the Q, and in another galaxy, their supreme species is called M.
Also, there is a mention in a book that the Continuum warns some of the younger Q to never agitate the Borg. Not sure why that would be, but still...
Just because they're almost all-powerful doesn't mean they are immune to things (such as the Borg).
That's what I thought it meant too, but though I tthink the Borg are more powerful than oft portrayed, they're. Not THAT powerful. I'm taking it to mean that provoking the Borg could seriously upset the afore- mentioned "order of things". As in they'll assimilate the entire galaxy if things aren't just so.
I remember reading that the a Q was impressed when hearing that Wesley crusher had the ability of the traveler or something. The travelers power must be significant for that.
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