Protect Yourself.....

[K'riq Sa]

Crucial

Because of recent abductions in daylight hours, refresh yourself of these things to do in an emergency situation...

This is for you, and for you to share with your wife, your children, everyone you know. After reading these 9 crucial tips, forward them to someone you care about.

It never hurts to be careful in this crazy world we live in.


1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do:

The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!


2. Learned this from a tourist guide.

If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM...

Toss it away from you...

Chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse.

RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!


3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car:

Kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will.

This has saved lives.


4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.) DON'T DO THIS!

The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go.

AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

If someone is in the car with a gun to your head DO NOT DRIVE OFF.

Repeat: DO NOT DRIVE OFF!

Instead gun the engine and speed into anything, wrecking the car. Your Air Bag will save you. If the person is in the back seat they will get the worst of it. As soon as the car crashes bail out and run. It is better than having them find your body in a remote location.



5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:

a.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat

b.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.

c.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side... If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out.

IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY (and better paranoid than dead).



6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. Stairwells are horrible places to be and the perfect crime spot. (This is especially true at NIGHT!)



7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 times in 100; and even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ.

RUN, Preferably in a zig -zag pattern!



8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP

It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked 'for help' into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.



9. Another Safety Point:

Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her 'Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, 'We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby's cries outside their doors when they're home alone at night.



10. Water scam!

If you wake up in the middle of the night to hear all your taps outside running or what you think is a burst pipe, DO NOT GO OUT TO INVESTIGATE! These people turn on all your outside taps full blast so that you will go out to investigate and then attack you.



Stay alert, keep safe, and look out for your neighbors!



Please pass this on. This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby Theory was mentioned on America 's Most Wanted when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana

I'd like you to forward this to all the women you know.

It may save a life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle..

I was going to send this to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it onto them, as well.

Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it and it's better to be safe than sorry.



your bestest pal,
k'riq

 

[tharpdevenport]

And if you can, when he reaches down to pick up your wallet after you've thrown it, kick him or her in the fucking head as hard as you can.

 

[Canadave]

11. Telepathic aliens!

Someone just told me that her friend heard a a voice in her head and strange lights in the sky the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her 'Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' The lady then said that it sounded like the something of vast power had flown over her home, and she was worried that it would attack the city. The policeman said, 'We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.' He told her that they think aliens have been trying to telepathically coax women out of their homes thinking that they are actually benevolent. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they have woken up with 4-6 hours of memory missing when they're home alone at night and not wearing tinfoil hats.

 

[Amaris]

Actually, the crying baby thing is true. We had a guy arrested near our apartment complex. Many of us had heard baby cries in our parking lot very early in the morning, about 3 AM or so. When we looked outside there was no one with a baby around, but there was a man standing near his vehicle, with no one else in sight.

J.

 

[Kestra]

I don't know anything about guns. But if someone had a loaded one at my head and I crashed the car, isn't there a chance it could go off? Also there's no guarantee the airbag would go off or even save someone.

 

[Cakes488]

This is a simple but useful tip. If someone approaches you in a car...run in the other direction that the car is travelling in. That can work for the cops too...just sayin'.

 

[Lonemagpie]

And if you can, when he reaches down to pick up your wallet after you've thrown it, kick him or her in the fucking head as hard as you can.

Incorrect, just run. Most people aren't actually any good at delivering real man-stopping kicks, and the likelihood is you'll a) give him time so that you can't now get away, b) piss him off and be interpreted as a threat, and c) put yourself off-balance and thus easier to take down.

Anyway...

12: Always check Snopes.com to see if the latest serial killer/abductor on the loose scare story is bogus. It usually is.

13: If someone grabs you with both hands and/or from behind, stamp on the top of his foot with your heel, really driving it into the ground. He *will* let go.

14: If someone has a gun on you, don't do anything stupid unless you're sure he's going to shoot anyway. It is possible to disarm a man with a pistol, but you're unlikely to be well-trained in how to do it. Watching action movies doesn't count.

15: If someone has a knife on you, see above.

16: Get an old wallet you don't use any more and stuff a few shreds of newspaper in it before travelling. If you get mugged, toss the guy *that* wallet and run.

17: Very important one, this. Do not ever carry a weapon which you are unwilling or unable to use correctly and effectively. If you do, and shit kicks off, a criminal with more experience and ability in said weapons will take it away and use it on you.

 

[Geckothan]

All of these suggestions are fine, but if you know how to fight, carry a knife and know how to kill with it, I'd just fight back.

Personally I'm a terrible fighter, but against your average street chav mugger kid (aka the people who are responsible for most of the crime in the country) who doesn't know how to fight either and doesn't even know where you're supposed to stab people to inflict the most serious wound, I'd elbow him in the stomach area (if he's behind) to distract him so he can't trip me up when I kick him in the groin with ball-busting force, trip him up, grab his knife, kick him in the head until he's barely conscious, restrain him and hold the knife to his throat until he breaks down into tears, kick him a few more times until he's knocked out cold then run.

Another option if I carried a knife of my own, would be to conceal the knife but keep it in my hands at all times, and if somebody suspicious is following me or someone jumps me, I'd pull it out immediately, aim for the heart, stab away, pull it out, knock them out so they can't run for help, clean the knife of fingerprints, throw it into the deepest river and act like nothing's happened. Of course this would probably land me into trouble but it'd be totally worth it.

I've never tried either of these but those would be my first instincts. I don't run away from people or give into people, I go down fighting. At least that way if he did manage to stab me, if I died or not, he'd get done when they catch him. If you run away, they'd probably get away with it.

...but if you have any sense you'd ignore my advice.

 

[MNM]

All of these suggestions are fine, but if you know how to fight, carry a knife and know how to kill with it, I'd just fight back.

And you most likely would either get killed or seriously injured.

 

[Geckothan]

All of these suggestions are fine, but if you know how to fight, carry a knife and know how to kill with it, I'd just fight back.

And you most likely would either get killed or seriously injured.

Against a lone 16 year old chav kid with his mother's kitchen knife who doesn't even know where the heart is located and doesn't know how to deliver a punch? I'll take my chances

 

[Lonemagpie]

All of these suggestions are fine, but if you know how to fight, carry a knife and know how to kill with it, I'd just fight back.

Most people don't know how to fight with or without a knife.

Self defence doesn't mean beating the mugger - it means not getting hurt yourself.

Personally I'm a terrible fighter, but against your average street chav mugger kid (aka the people who are responsible for most of the crime in the country) who doesn't know how to fight either and doesn't even know where you're supposed to stab people to inflict the most serious wound,

But he's learned by experience... He will most likely be better than his victim, and this is where the most important part comes in: don't get into the situation in the first place. If you don't look like a victim, he won't decide you're an easy enough pick to have a go at, so the situation is a lot less likely to arise anyway.

I'd elbow him in the stomach area (if he's behind) to distract him so he can't trip me up when I kick him in the groin with ball-busting force,

Assuming you hit him and he doesn't grab your leg and pull you over, which is what usually happens when an untrained person tries to use a kick in a street-fight.

trip him up, grab his knife,

Chances are you now have a sliced-open palm, at best, and probably a stabbed femoral artery.

kick him in the head until he's barely conscious,

So easy to misjudge, and see the grabbed and pulled over part above.

restrain him and hold the knife to his throat until he breaks down into tears,

So, instead of being a mile away from him by now, you're hanging on to an experienced violent thug. What a plan!

kick him a few more times until he's knocked out cold then run.

Congratulations! In the UK, at least, you now get punished worse than your attempted attacker, when the cops get wind of it. Well-defended!

Another option if I carried a knife of my own, would be to conceal the knife but keep it in my hands at all times, and if somebody suspicious is following me or someone jumps me, I'd pull it out immediately, aim for the heart, stab away, pull it out, knock them out so they can't run for help, clean the knife of fingerprints, throw it into the deepest river and act like nothing's happened. Of course this would probably land me into trouble but it'd be totally worth it.

Don't worry about trouble, your description has already indicated you don't know how to use the weapon properly, so by now you've most likely been stabbed to death rather than arrested. Unless of course the person following is just a drunk neighbour trying to remember the way home.

See, unlike in the movies, most people don't drop dead the instant you stab them, even if you *think* you've got the heart. Most usually, in the minutes, or half hour, or whatever before they bleed out, they stab you back. This is why so many knife victims have been stabbed a dozen or more times (in what the tabloids always refer to as a frenzy) - unless you're really well trained and/or very lucky, it takes a *lot* of cuts to put someone down reasonably quickly - like, so they won't have an hour or so to call the cops and an ambulance. Because a stab or cut wound often isn't actually that noticeable or even painful at first, until the adrenalin wears off the bleed-out takes effect. Voice of experience, here.

But let it not be said that I advocate passive resistance - if you're using a knife against a knife-wielder, you want to cut the veins and tendons on the *inside* of his wrist/forearm. Physically it means you can disarm him, cause a fair amount blood loss, and legally it looks better than cuts on the outside of his wrist/arm, which would be taken as defence wounds from your attack. This way they're more discernably the result of you defending against his attack.

Unless he isn't armed, in which case you don't qualify for that "reasonable force" allowance. In the UK, anyway.

I've never tried either of these but those would be my first instincts.

And they'll get you killed or jailed.

I don't run away from people or give into people,

See the definition of self defence above. There's nothing "giving in" about distracting someone so you can leave the danger area.

I go down fighting.

And go down you would.

...but if you have any sense you'd ignore my advice.

That's the most sensible thing you've said.

 

[Geckothan]

But he's learned by experience... He will most likely be better than his victim, and this is where the most important part comes in: don't get into the situation in the first place. If you don't look like a victim, he won't decide you're an easy enough pick to have a go at, so the situation is a lot less likely to arise anyway.

A chav kid wielding his mother's kitchen knife probably has just as much experience as me, i.e. none.

But let it not be said that I advocate passive resistance - if you're using a knife against a knife-wielder, you want to cut the veins and tendons on the *inside* of his wrist/forearm. Physically it means you can disarm him, cause a fair amount blood loss, and legally it looks better than cuts on the outside of his wrist/arm, which would be taken as defence wounds from your attack. This way they're more discernably the result of you defending against his attack.

I'll remember that next time I'm in a knife fight.

See the definition of self defence above. There's nothing "giving in" about distracting someone so you can leave the danger area.

Running away like a scared little bitch and throwing them your wallet sounds a little like "giving in" to me, but hey you're the expert on stabbing here.

 

[Lonemagpie]

But he's learned by experience... He will most likely be better than his victim, and this is where the most important part comes in: don't get into the situation in the first place. If you don't look like a victim, he won't decide you're an easy enough pick to have a go at, so the situation is a lot less likely to arise anyway.

A chav kid wielding his mother's kitchen knife probably has just as much experience as me, i.e. none.

But let it not be said that I advocate passive resistance - if you're using a knife against a knife-wielder, you want to cut the veins and tendons on the *inside* of his wrist/forearm. Physically it means you can disarm him, cause a fair amount blood loss, and legally it looks better than cuts on the outside of his wrist/arm, which would be taken as defence wounds from your attack. This way they're more discernably the result of you defending against his attack.

I'll remember that next time I'm in a knife fight.

See the definition of self defence above. There's nothing "giving in" about distracting someone so you can leave the danger area.

Running away like a scared little bitch and throwing them your wallet sounds a little like "giving in" to me, but hey you're the expert on stabbing here.

Let me put it this way - I'm an experienced martial artist, with black in my belt and all that, 23 years' experience in fighting with knives, swords, staves, etc. I sometimes teach self-defence and sometimes stagefighting as well. My party trick at those is to get a volunteer to put a cocked airsoft pistol to my head with instructions to shoot me if I move - so far nobody has ever managed it before I disarm them. The two or three times anyone (i.e. outside a dojo or whatever) has waved a bladed weapon at me, I have taken it off them and made them eat it. (the wounds I've had and didn't notice weren't from attackers but an accident involving a leaking fridge and slippery linoleum...)

I'm not a fast runner and I've never handed over a wallet.

But not everybody's got 23 years' experience, so I still call it do as I say, not as I do.

From your blustering you're a statistic waiting be glossed over on page eight - the only question would be whether it'd be as a tragic victim or when you come up for sentencing. And your obsession with 16 year old chavs suggests you're, what, 17?

 

[Emher]

Thank you, this thread has made me realise that there are benifits to living in small coastal city in Sweden. Seriously I can't imagine when I'd need these here.

That being said I do go into Stockholm from time to time and know how to avoid danger and to kick ass when the shit hits the fan.

 

[Geckothan]

Let me put it this way - I'm an experienced martial artist, with black in my belt and all that, 23 years' experience in fighting with knives, swords, staves, etc. I sometimes teach self-defence and sometimes stagefighting as well. My party trick at those is to get a volunteer to put a cocked airsoft pistol to my head with instructions to shoot me if I move - so far nobody has ever managed it before I disarm them. The two or three times anyone (i.e. outside a dojo or whatever) has waved a bladed weapon at me, I have taken it off them and made them eat it. (the wounds I've had and didn't notice weren't from attackers but an accident involving a leaking fridge and slippery linoleum...)

I'm not a fast runner and I've never handed over a wallet.

But not everybody's got 23 years' experience, so I still call it do as I say, not as I do.

Your credentials are very impressive but it all looks a bit like dick-sizing to me.

And your obsession with 16 year old chavs suggests you're, what, 17?

Your guess is a bit short of the target. The obsession with chavs (not specifically 16 year old chavs, but younger people in general) is because they're the only types of people that commit those kind of crimes around here. There's no serious violent crime around here beyond the odd few chavs trying to mug people.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Your credentials are very impressive but it all looks a bit like dick-sizing to me.

Sorry not to run away from you like a little bitch, but you're the one making sarky comments about stabbing expertise.

As for my Dick, the wife's never complained.

But, whatever, that's this thread fucked up, cos now it'll devolve into "run away, run away" vs "I'll kill any motherfucker that looks at me crooked"

 

[K'riq Sa]

I don't know anything about guns. But if someone had a loaded one at my head and I crashed the car, isn't there a chance it could go off?

true, but there is that chance that it will go off, even if you don't crash the car. so six of one, half dozen of another....

Originally Posted by Lonemagpie Let me put it this way - I'm an experienced martial artist, with black in my belt and all that,

good, you throw your belt, and i'll run screaming like a little bitch...

There's no serious violent crime around here

That is the usually quote that someone on the news is always heard saying, when they are interviewing the next door neighbors at the crime scene...



k'riq

 

[Lonemagpie]

good, you throw your belt, and i'll run screaming like a little bitch...

Hm, belt vs attacker... that reminds me I must watch Fist Of Legend again...

 

[Non Sync]

And if you can, when he reaches down to pick up your wallet after you've thrown it, kick him or her in the fucking head as hard as you can.

Incorrect, just run. Most people aren't actually any good at delivering real man-stopping kicks, and the likelihood is you'll a) give him time so that you can't now get away, b) piss him off and be interpreted as a threat, and c) put yourself off-balance and thus easier to take down.

Anyway...

12: Always check Snopes.com to see if the latest serial killer/abductor on the loose scare story is bogus. It usually is.

Actually, the whole original email is discussed in this Snopes article.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Actually, the whole original email is discussed in this Snopes article.

Common sense! Yay!

Oh, here's another piece of sensible advice I just remembered - not being a driver I tend not to think of car safety first:

If you're driving alone and your car breaks down, especially if you're a woman, while you're waiting (with doors locked) for the recovery truck, sit on the passenger side, not the driver's side. Passing nutjobs will assume that someone else is with you and is just out of sight, and thus be less likely to take an interest.