Prometheus: Ridley Scott returns to Sci-Fi

[Mage]

I loved the trailers, both of them. However, it seems as if the biggest part of the movie has been told in the trailer. Why they are going out there, something there wants to go to Earth for a bad thing, we see what looks like the Derelict and the Pilot, we see Prometheus crashing into it as if it wants to prevent it from reaching Earth. It gives the distinct impression that this ship is indeed the Derelict from Alien, and this planet is LV426, that this ship carries Eggs.

 

[Caligula]

I hope for the best, but in any case, I'll certainly be more than satisfied if this is better than both Alien 3 and Resurrection.

Anything that can negate the awful theatrical experience I had with Alien 3 would be awesome. But that's the bare minimum, and I anticipate more than just the bare minimum after seeing this trailer.

 

[davejames]

I loved the trailers, both of them. However, it seems as if the biggest part of the movie has been told in the trailer. Why they are going out there, something there wants to go to Earth for a bad thing, we see what looks like the Derelict and the Pilot, we see Prometheus crashing into it as if it wants to prevent it from reaching Earth. It gives the distinct impression that this ship is indeed the Derelict from Alien, and this planet is LV426, that this ship carries Eggs.

Yeah they do seem to be showing us a lot, but this is one case where I'm actually less interested in the story itself than in how Scott executes the story.

After all, the original Alien didn't have the most original or unique story either. It was really the incredible atmosphere and gritty sense of detail that makes that movie so memorable, and I'm hoping that's the same case here.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

Forbes has an interesting article today:

With the exception of the occasional gem, like Children of Men in 2006, science fiction has been nothing if not predictable, derivative, and—as with the latest multi-million dollar sci-fi flop, John Carter—boring.

That’s why Ridley Scott’s return to the genre is so noteworthy.

What is clear, if nothing else, is that Prometheus holds the promise of reinvigoration for a genre that desperately needs it.

Sci-Fi Needs Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" to be More than a Big Movie

says a little but should say a lot more... weak but the article had potential.

 

[xortex]

Disbelief can be a good or bad thing depending on if it's suspended or not. The set up and pay off for Aliens raised more questions than it answered. I fear this is gonna answer more questions than it raises.

 

[Starbreaker]

Okay... you're just complaining to be complaining now. I guess that's your thing. Just wait until the movie comes out before psychoanalyzing it.

 

[Sean Aaron]

Forbes has an interesting article today:

With the exception of the occasional gem, like Children of Men in 2006, science fiction has been nothing if not predictable, derivative, and—as with the latest multi-million dollar sci-fi flop, John Carter—boring.

Well, I'm actually curious to see Children of Men now.

Regarding this film, I'm suspicious like I'm suspicious of any big-budget Hollywood effects film and will probably wait for video download.

 

[sojourner]

Children of Men is a good movie. It reminds me a lot of the Charlton Heston sci-fi stuff like Soylent Green. In fact, you could easily switch out Clive Owen for Charlton and the movie would still work.

 

[BenRoethig]

So, was just at the Weyland website reading the time line. Not sure this has been mentioned, having not read the 44 pages of this thread, but did anyone notice the timeline has a mistake? The company develops bullets made from material found in another solar system a year before they introduce the first FTL exploration vehicle.

Besides that, I find the entire timeline ridiculously too short for the advances made. Ignoring that though, the movie looks like it will be awesome.

Tertiary material like this is meant to get you excited for the film and is meant to fill in the gaps a little bit. Errors aren't unheard of.

So this is like AvP, but better?

Its what AVP should have been the first place, presumably the missing piece of the puzzle.

 

[Candlelight]

"...it was a derelict spacecraft, it wasn't from there..."
- Ripley; Aliens

I'd like to see how Ridley Scott writes himself out of that one!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

That TED presentation was epic. Presumably, this would be the son of Charles Bishop Weyland, though I doubt they'd mention any direct connections with the other series (AVP or Predator for that matter). I can still imagine it to be.

Me too.

I think they're pretty much considering Charles Weyland from AVP to never have existed and having Peter Weyland as the company founder.

Not necessarily. Perhaps Peter is just picking up where Charles left off, as it were. There's nothing seen here that categorically denies Charles' existence, although I wouldn't expect this film to mention him (different writers?).

 

[sojourner]

"...it was a derelict spacecraft, it wasn't from there..."
- Ripley; Aliens

I'd like to see how Ridley Scott writes himself out of that one!

The same way Gene handled Spock smiling in "The Cage".

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

And who's to say Ripley didn't just make a mistake?

 

[Hyperspace05]

That TED presentation was epic. Presumably, this would be the son of Charles Bishop Weyland, though I doubt they'd mention any direct connections with the other series (AVP or Predator for that matter). I can still imagine it to be.

Me too.

I think they're pretty much considering Charles Weyland from AVP to never have existed and having Peter Weyland as the company founder.

Not necessarily. Perhaps Peter is just picking up where Charles left off, as it were. There's nothing seen here that categorically denies Charles' existence, although I wouldn't expect this film to mention him (different writers?).

Oh come on - Why all this contortion to fit this and AvP (of all films) into some grand plot. Do you think Ridley Scott really cares for what any AvP or any film maker did of the alien sequels?

No... The only connection will be to film "Alien" - if at all. There will still be PLENTY of contradictions in the films. It is clear that Scott is not viewing this as a direct sequel or prequel to the film. A lot of details will not match up. For one, LV-426(?) looks like a completely different planet. The technology does not match, nor will the timeline.

Ridley is merely making a film using a lot of the Alien ideas and designs, but not the 'xenomorph' itself. Trying to make it something more than that will just cause you headaches. Enjoy it for what it will be.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

And who's to say Ripley didn't just make a mistake?

Her belief may have simply been based on evidence which indicated that the derelict crashed on the planetoid. That's something that seems like it's going to happen in Prometheus. The Nostromo crew didn't have the freedom to e.g. process samples brought back from the derelict, say for isotope comparisons with the planetoid, because their science officer was compromised.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Why all this contortion to fit this and AvP (of all films) into some grand plot. Do you think Ridley Scott really cares for what any AvP or any film maker did of the alien sequels?

I have no idea what Ridley Scott cares for.

Of course there's almost always contradictions in a long running series like this, but part of the fun is inventing ways to explain them. This may be "fanwank", but so what.

Even if Peter Weyland is explained as being the head *and the founder* of Weyland Industries, that's not necessarily a contradiction. Peter's obviously got one hell of an ego, so he probably just downplayed Charles' existence altogether and made himself look more important. I'm sure that happens a lot in real life corporations.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Well enjoy your fanwank then!

 

[xortex]

He's a replicant I tell you. He broke Charles' pinky then killed him.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Ridley is merely making a film using a lot of the Alien ideas and designs, but not the 'xenomorph' itself.

I've yet to see any evidence that the xenomorph will not be in Prometheus.

 

[Samurai8472]