He takes off with Rachael in both versions.
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He takes off with Rachael in both versions.
You're missing the point. It's the juxtaposition of both scenes. In the beginning, Deckard is alone in a cold dark place. At the end Deckard is with Rachel in an open space filled with sunlight. The original ending implies that we have control over our destinies. The new ending seems to imply that our actions are ambiguous at best.
Knowing Scott's style (particularly from aspects of Blade Runner), it wouldn't surprise me if he intentionally made the one artificial character the most sympathetic over his human colleagues with the movie-going human audience. Even some of the most anti-Prometheus vitriol seen in this thread gives great exception to Fassbender's performance. I doubt it's coincidence at this point.
Wow, what a shock.
From the book Prometheus: The Art Of The Film.
For those wanting more of an Alien tie-in, well there is one. I'll have to scan the image and post it, but there is an image in the film under an arch of sorts that depicts the familiar Alien xenomorph in something of a crucified posture. That means the Engineers were aware of the familiar xenomorph's existence somewhere. That means there is a way for that black goo to end up as a familiar xenomorph.
Oh, and the snake thing, or the Hammerpede as the production crew called it, looks crazy in clear still pictures. You see detail you might not see onscreen. Just looking at this thing, even knowing it's an animatronic model, gives me the creeps.
For those wanting more of an Alien tie-in, well there is one. I'll have to scan the image and post it, but there is an image in the film under an arch of sorts that depicts the familiar Alien xenomorph in something of a crucified posture. That means the Engineers were aware of the familiar xenomorph's existence somewhere. That means there is a way for that black goo to end up as a familiar xenomorph.
Oh, and the snake thing, or the Hammerpede as the production crew called it, looks crazy in clear still pictures. You see detail you might not see onscreen. Just looking at this thing, even knowing it's an animatronic model, gives me the creeps.
It was also in the trailer
The crucified Xenomorph isn't exactly hard to spot in the film. The camera focuses on it for several seconds.
I'm still trying to figure out what the hell this has to do with Jesus, though. Jesus was a real human person. Are we supposed to believe that he actually looked like an alien? Or that Mary was impregnated by a facehugger?
I'm still trying to figure out what the hell this has to do with Jesus, though. Jesus was a real human person. Are we supposed to believe that he actually looked like an alien? Or that Mary was impregnated by a facehugger?
^^^ I believe it was implied that Jesus was a human/engineer hybrid - made to look outwardly human so as not to alarm the indigenous population, but having advanced engineer capabilities and attributes. This has nothing ostensibly to do with the xenomorph - as far as we know - which seems to be the product of the black goo coming into contact with a corrupted being - human, engineer or otherwise. I don't think the xenomorph crucifixion is analogous to Jesus in this case.
All this seems to be nothing more than speculation based on a quote in some interview given by Scott (quoted several times here) and an on-screen reference to something very bad happening around 2000 years ago, driving some of the engineers to want to see us annihilated.
All this seems to be nothing more than speculation based on a quote in some interview given by Scott (quoted several times here) and an on-screen reference to something very bad happening around 2000 years ago, driving some of the engineers to want to see us annihilated.
Yeah, I got the 2000-years ago bit, but at what point are we supposed to infer that Jesus was a human-looking alien hybrid? I don't remember anything like that being mentioned, and frankly, it feels like a pretty big leap.
And on the third day, a xenomorph named Jesus burst forth from human Jesus's corpse. It descended into the rainforest and hid there for 2000 years until a Predator came to hunt it. The Predator succeeded. Unfortunately, Arnold Schwarzenegger came and blew him up.
And on the third day, a xenomorph named Jesus burst forth from human Jesus's corpse. It descended into the rainforest and hid there for 2000 years until a Predator came to hunt it. The Predator succeeded. Unfortunately, Arnold Schwarzenegger came and blew him up.
Well, if you believe the Christian theology, Jesus was a human/creator hybrid.
Was he?
That's news!
Since this came from Scott's own words and addresses this very subject, I'm putting this in spoiler code. From one of many sources that say the same thing:
What did we do to make God/our creators angry? Well, if you theorized that it was because we crucified Jesus, you win! Confirming that at one point the script explicitly spelled this out, Scott says that was the direction they were taking with the story -- at least at first. "We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose," he admits. "But if you look at it as an 'our children are misbehaving down there' scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, 'Let’s send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it.' Guess what? They crucified him."
My own personal speculation on the connection between Jesus and the xenomorph: Since we pretty much know that the xenomorph comes from contact of the black goo with corrupted beings, perhaps the crucifixion of Jesus was the ultimate symbolic act of corruption for our race as a whole. Perhaps this was the "true" origin of the concept of original sin - a sin that we all must bear as a species, even though nobody who was there who either saw or perpetrated the act is still alive any more.
Well, at least it's kind-of different than what we usually see in mindless popcorn action flicks. 
Gotta give him a little credit for at least trying a different slant to an old story.
I also happen to be a fan of Ancient Alien Theory and I guess I give this film a little more latitude due to my admitted bias.
Gotta give him a little credit for at least trying a different slant to an old story.I also happen to be a fan of Ancient Alien Theory and I guess I give this film a little more latitude due to my admitted bias.
And I think it would have been better if the movie had actually attempted to fill in some of these answers. I'm fine with some mystery left at the end, but this movie leaves too much. And when you think about it and actually figure out the answer to the question "Why are they mad?" the answer "We killed Space Jesus" just feels...well...really stupid.
If you can't be profound, don't try. I'd rather watch a Michael Bay movie.
If you can't be profound, don't try. I'd rather watch a Michael Bay movie.