Problems with the "Swine flu vaccine"

[Lindley]

I just see that as common sense.

Know what I see as common sense?

Doctor comes up to me, says he wants to inject me & mine with:
Cow pus, monkey cells, live viruses, pig tissue, mercury, etc.
I punch him twice in rapid succession. "Take two of these & call me in the morning," I say.

And *that* is why we trust the doctors to know better than we do how to safeguard our health. Because the gut reaction of a layperson to deep science is often wrong.

Just be glad your health doesn't depend on a belief in the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principal.

 

[Chrisisall]

Well, there you go. I was speaking mostly of the "regular" flu. I didn't know this swine flu had the characteristics of the 1918 pandemic.

And no one else does either. just pay your money for the shot.

And *that* is why we trust the doctors to know better than we do how to safeguard our health. Because the gut reaction of a layperson to deep science is often wrong.

My "gut" reaction back in the day was that phoney fats were bad, science has caught up to me.
Digest that, and forget vitamins- it's a confidence trick by evil peeps bent on selling suppliments in the face of excellent designer veggies.

 

[farmkid]

Well, there you go. I was speaking mostly of the "regular" flu. I didn't know this swine flu had the characteristics of the 1918 pandemic. Does it cause an immune overreaction? I recall that's what made the 1918 flu so deadly in the healthiest demographics--those with strong immune systems saw it backfire and kill them, due to how the virus worked.

I'm not sure about the why, but your explanation makes sense. What I do know is that both the 1918 Spanish flu and the current swine flu are of the less common H1N1 type, and that so far the most severely affected have been young adults. It very well could be an immune overreaction. I've been paying attention to this aspect of it because I have 5 children, 4 of which are 6 or older, and my wife may be pregnant. That makes 5 out of the 7 in my household in the high-risk category.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Well, there you go. I was speaking mostly of the "regular" flu. I didn't know this swine flu had the characteristics of the 1918 pandemic. Does it cause an immune overreaction? I recall that's what made the 1918 flu so deadly in the healthiest demographics--those with strong immune systems saw it backfire and kill them, due to how the virus worked.

I'm not sure about the why, but your explanation makes sense. What I do know is that both the 1918 Spanish flu and the current swine flu are of the less common H1N1 type, and that so far the most severely affected have been young adults. It very well could be an immune overreaction. I've been paying attention to this aspect of it because I have 5 children, 4 of which are 6 or older, and my wife may be pregnant. That makes 5 out of the 7 in my household in the high-risk category.

The current conclusion about the 1918 pandemic is that it killed the young and healthy by inducing a cytokine storm. According to that article, the 1918 flu, SARS, and H5N1 bird flu caused cytokine storms. Apparently, the jury is still out on whether or not the current swine flu operates in this manner--not enough information for the CDC to make a judgment one way or the other, yet.