In the recent DW novel Prisoner of the Daleks the Tenth Doctor has a run-in with some Daleks that are said to be from before the Time War; I believe it's stated by the Doctor that this shouldn't be possible due to the time-lock placed around the War, which would normally prevent any interaction with the Daleks prior to or during their conflict with Gallifrey. Frankly, I find this idea a bit confusing, as throughout the new series the Doctor has visited time zones in which the Daleks must have been active.
"Prisoner of the Daleks"/Time War question (SPOILERS!!!)
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first of all let me say this is one the better NSA books, and one of the better Daleks storys from the new series, however the book does not really explain how he was able to go back to pre the time war, always worth mentiong that Dalek Cann did break the the Time Lock before this book (in the Doctors timeline) so its possible that is what allowed this to happen.
The thing is though, if the entire history of the Daleks is time-locked, as is implied, then the Doctor would not be able even to visit the present era, as the Daleks would surely be active at this time (They were powerful enough to attack Earth in the 22nd century as shown in The Dalek Invasion of Earth).
There's a line early in the book to the effect that the TARDIS slipped a time track. Which leads into...
That's my reading of The Eyeless as well.
If you think of the Time Lock as a dam in the river of time, it's diverted the flow of time away from certain places, leaving a kind of "dry river bed" in time. There are still things there, rocks and shoals and junk, but they're inaccessible from the river of time.
There were cracks in the dam. But Dalek-Caan went and punched a giant hole in the dam.
Now, water from the river of time is flowing through the Time Lock and into the dry river bed. And it's picking up things that didn't really exist any longer and dragging them in the main river downstream.
Thus, the TARDIS could land in Dalek history before the Time War. Thus, the Fortress can manifest itself.
History that didn't exist is existing again.
You know, after some consideration, I think the whole idea of the Daleks and Gallifrey being "time-locked" is stupid and non-sensical. If that really was the case, then I believe that all of time and space would be time-locked, as the Daleks and Time Lords were active throughout all of time and space.
In season one they repeatedly mentioned that the Time Lords and Daleks just vanished one day.
So that could be interpreted that the timelock removed them from the timeline all together. To an other dimension, where you cannot time travel. Like Gallifrey in Invasion of Time...
So that could be interpreted that the timelock removed them from the timeline all together. To an other dimension, where you cannot time travel. Like Gallifrey in Invasion of Time...
Kind of like what The Doctor did in "Doomsday" IE sucking in all the Daleks and Cybermen into the void. I think the phase "Time Lock" is fairly accurate in that it's basically a prison for the Daleks & The Time Lords. It removed nearly all of them from time and space thus putting them into one place no one could touch.
Now, there have been exceptions to this Time Lock such as The Doctor, The Master and a few Daleks but there are reasonable explanations as to why they escaped being imprisoned. Anyway, if the Time Lock is really just a prison then someone will find a way to escape.
Does the time lock prevent the Doctor from visiting such eras as the 26th and 41st centuries then, as the Daleks were active in those times.
And incidentally, Prisoner of the Daleks describes the pre-War Daleks as having the gold/bronze casing and protective shields as the ones from the war era. The thing is though, the book is set during the first Earth Empire's conflict with the Daleks which suggests a timeframe around that of Colony in Space/Planet of the Daleks, and they weren't as advanced at that time.
And incidentally, Prisoner of the Daleks describes the pre-War Daleks as having the gold/bronze casing and protective shields as the ones from the war era. The thing is though, the book is set during the first Earth Empire's conflict with the Daleks which suggests a timeframe around that of Colony in Space/Planet of the Daleks, and they weren't as advanced at that time.
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