Prime Directive continued...

[Guy Gardener]

Yes.

Cannon is what is shown on screen. Period.

I'm not picking a fight, but this is hilarious...

Web Serieses, like Star Trek Continues or Renegades are not Canon, because Web Serieses are not Canon.

Everything on Netflix, including Discovery and Picard are Web Serieses.

Picard and Discovery are not Canon (until they air/rerun on terrestrial TV.).

 

[fireproof78]

Are you just going to dismiss them as well?

Yup.

 

[The Wormhole]

ideas from books are integrated into cannon all the time.

It's happened a few times. There's a difference between "a few times" and "all the time."

Regardless, just because ideas from the books have been integrated into canon a few times does not mean every book has canonical value. Simply put, none of them do.

 

[Kor]

And even in the context of published Trek books, Franz Joseph's Technical Manual basically amounts to nothing more than an oddball curiosity now. FJ actually wasn't a fan of Trek... he thought it was rather silly with all the scientific inaccuracies. Not that being a fan is some kind of prerequisite, but that's neither here nor there for this discussion. FJ just came up with this interesting project of trying to make some kind of technical design sense of the stuff that had been seen or mentioned in the show (and in some instances, correcting stuff that didn't make sense), as well as doing some extrapolations, which at the time was fair game since it seemed that Trek on screen was dead.

Anyway, FJ had Gene R.'s support in the beginning, but at some point there was a falling-out, and GR started discrediting FJ's work. And Trek has diverged from it ever since.

Kor

 

[Toril Toran]

Gene Roddenberry disagreed with everyone who ran the show. Everyone knows he tried to interfere with shows through his lawyer.
But after all, it was his original idea and vision.

 

[JesterFace]

If being on screen makes a certain episode or event canon then online services are canon, they can be watched from TV, computer or some other screen.
Or, does screen in this case mean it has to be a TV screen.
CRT screen?
Flatscreen?

 

[Dukhat]

Gene Roddenberry disagreed with everyone who ran the show. Everyone knows he tried to interfere with shows through his lawyer.
But after all, it was his original idea and vision.

What does any of that matter? He and Maizlish were out of the picture by the second season of TNG. Neither of them had any influence on Star Trek after that. And the shows were just fine for it.

 

[The Wormhole]

If being on screen makes a certain episode or event canon then online services are canon, they can be watched from TV, computer or some other screen.
Or, does screen in this case mean it has to be a TV screen.
CRT screen?
Flatscreen?

"Onscreen material" is just a sloppy way of saying anything from a TV show or movie.

 

[Toril Toran]

So are you saying that Star trek the animated series is Canon?
You really should at least read The Articles of the Federation before you make a comment on its' veracity.

 

[BillJ]

So are you saying that Star trek the animated series is Canon?
You really should at least read The Articles of the Federation before you make a comment on its' veracity.

TAS is canon. Canon isn’t some ironclad guarantee of continuity.

 

[at Quark's]

TAS is canon. Canon isn’t some ironclad guarantee of continuity.

What we need is a canon definition of canon!

 

[Farscape One]

Canon...

(Okay, I tried several times, but I have no idea how to do this.

An image of a Canon camera)

 

[Trekker09]

 

[Farscape One]

That's it! Thank you.

(I figured that would be more original than a giant cannon.)

 

[Trekker09]

Heh-- didn’t mean to get off topic, as a word nerd it always bugs me when people say cannon when they mean canon…..or it’s for its…..or loose for lose…..etc.

 

[Farscape One]

Heh-- didn’t mean to get off topic, as a word nerd it always bugs me when people say cannon when they mean canon…..or it’s for its…..or loose for lose…..etc.

Perfectly fine. I'm a bit of a grammar hound, too. My texts are all complete sentences. I find it's far less confusing than trying to decipher all these shortened words and acronyms that are common in texting. (And online in general, too.)

 

[at Quark's]

Heh-- didn’t mean to get off topic, as a word nerd it always bugs me when people say cannon when they mean canon…..or it’s for its…..or loose for lose…..etc.

Like in that famous song that laments the limited wriggling room of newer Trek series because so much already has been established.

(Canon to the left of them ... Canon to the right of them .... Canon in front of them ....)

You don't know how often I've seen it written as 'cannon' in those lines ...

 

[The Wormhole]

So are you saying that Star trek the animated series is Canon?

Yes

You really should at least read The Articles of the Federation before you make a comment on its' veracity.

I see no need to do that