Impression, certainly. But neither of those things requires one to be in the Resistance. Especially living in a refugee camp.
"Preemptive Strike"
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I think he was holding back on that one, because he knew she was kinda nutz lol. It was Data who unwittingly slammed the door on her, with that bit at the end about her son being sad. I think Data may have put that lady over the edge into mental institution territory. She looked downright shattered
You know, the more I think about this debate, the more I reflect on the fact that Ro joined Starfleet, because she wanted to be taken out of the whole situation on the homeworld. That leads me to think she wasn't a resistance fighter in her past, but rather a refugee of sorts, who just wanted out. This could also be why she fell in with the Maqui at the end, guilt for having not done enough
At the last scene of this episode, i can understand Picard being too mad to say anything or even move, and that his motionlessness doesn't mean he's time-shifting already. After all, something in me believes that Picard knew not to trust Ro on this mission but so desperately wanted to give her a chance to make him wrong about her, and is angry that she let him down, which he knew would happen.
I wouldn't say mad, but I can see much disappointment. Ro let him down but Picard probably struggled to find reasons after Riker came back and reported it. The addition of knowing that even Ro felt terrible of breaking his faith in her probably twist the knife, as it shows she really did struggle with this choice. If she just betrayed his trust with not a final message to give to him, it would have been easy for Picard to be angry at her turning her back to the Federation. Instead, it leaves him baffled and yet can sorta see where Ro is coming from that as anger is turning more and more of being hugely disappointed and questioning himself of putting her in that spot in the first place.
Hmm. What is respectable? Apparently, there's no mandatory cool-off time after one resigns and before one can join a foreign military organization (Worf pondering working for the Nyberrite Alliance in "Way of the Warrior", and his on-off relationship with the Klingon Defense Force). There may be non-disclosure contracts signed, so that Riker or Picard joining the pirates in "Gambit" and telling them all about Starfleet tactical weaknesses would be disrespectable, but probably such contracts would be toilet paper in most cases, and Starfleet would accept that much.
The nature of the destination military may matter: the Klingons were still allies whenever Worf worked for them, and Worf's reputation in Starfleet was never tarnished - and the Maquis supposedly were considered a criminal organization from the get-go, and nobody who joined them survived without getting black marks. Although theoretically we have no proof that being member of a criminal organization is criminalized in the UFP, as long as you don't actually commit crimes. But that's neither here nor there regarding the respectability of the act of joining itself.
Timo Saloniemi
The nature of the destination military may matter: the Klingons were still allies whenever Worf worked for them, and Worf's reputation in Starfleet was never tarnished - and the Maquis supposedly were considered a criminal organization from the get-go, and nobody who joined them survived without getting black marks. Although theoretically we have no proof that being member of a criminal organization is criminalized in the UFP, as long as you don't actually commit crimes. But that's neither here nor there regarding the respectability of the act of joining itself.
Timo Saloniemi
Agreed. I'd say that this is his disappointed face... lolI'd say this is his angry face.
That man has no passion.....OR IMAGINATION!Agreed. I'd say that this is his disappointed face... lol
I'd say this is his angry face.
Trust me, my old man gave me looks like that when he's both angry and/or seething in disappointment. It's not exactly easy to tell.
Seething also implies angry... just sayin. lol
After studying Picard's finely chiseled countenance, I shall share my findings.
The lips starts to recede upward. The brow ridge sinks low, and the jaw is clenched. The eyes are in a dead stare, but focused. The forehead is creased vertically, as the eyebrows narrow. And an oven hot steam of moral superiority is expanding, and wants to release, but Picard will hold it back.
In a nutshell, he looks like he caught whiff of a foul odor, & that odor is Ro screwing up his mission & disappearing like a fart in the wind lol
Let's compare Ice Man Gazes
Ro cuts & runs
Wesley jumps ship
Worf resigns himself to war
It looks to me like Ro & Wes both look almost the same, except Wes might have shocked him a bit more, & Ro has him burning a hole in the wall with his eyeballs. lol. Worf's looks a little worried
Let's compare Ice Man Gazes
Ro cuts & runs
Wesley jumps ship
Worf resigns himself to war
It looks to me like Ro & Wes both look almost the same, except Wes might have shocked him a bit more, & Ro has him burning a hole in the wall with his eyeballs. lol. Worf's looks a little worried
I can understand why Ro did what she did.
She had tried for years to fit into Starfleet but obviously didn't really feel at home there. She screwed up, was court-martialed, ended up in jail and when everything did seem lost met Picard who believed in her and gave her her career in Starfleet back. I guess that she was very grateful to Picard for that and really did her best to become a good Starfleet officer.
But when she met those Maquis, then she found herself at home for the first time since her childhood and she made the choice to join them. So she decided tojoin the Maquis even if it meant giving up her career in Starfleet and, worst of all, betray Picard who she liked and respected.
Even if I do understand Ro, I must state that I feel very sorry for Picard in the last scene. He must have felt totally let down and betrayed by someone he liked and trusted.
However, this is a great episode, one of my favorite TNG episodes.
I must also state that Ro Laren is one of my TNG and overall Star Trek favorite characters.
And so is Picard too!
She had tried for years to fit into Starfleet but obviously didn't really feel at home there. She screwed up, was court-martialed, ended up in jail and when everything did seem lost met Picard who believed in her and gave her her career in Starfleet back. I guess that she was very grateful to Picard for that and really did her best to become a good Starfleet officer.
But when she met those Maquis, then she found herself at home for the first time since her childhood and she made the choice to join them. So she decided tojoin the Maquis even if it meant giving up her career in Starfleet and, worst of all, betray Picard who she liked and respected.
Even if I do understand Ro, I must state that I feel very sorry for Picard in the last scene. He must have felt totally let down and betrayed by someone he liked and trusted.
However, this is a great episode, one of my favorite TNG episodes.
I must also state that Ro Laren is one of my TNG and overall Star Trek favorite characters.
And so is Picard too!
Nah... I thought about Worf killing Duras too, but those are just the moments a crew member walked out on him. I call it the butthurt trio lol
I can understand why Ro did what she did.
She had tried for years to fit into Starfleet but obviously didn't really feel at home there. She screwed up, was court-martialed, ended up in jail and when everything did seem lost met Picard who believed in her and gave her her career in Starfleet back. I guess that she was very grateful to Picard for that and really did her best to become a good Starfleet officer.
But when she met those Maquis, then she found herself at home for the first time since her childhood and she made the choice to join them. So she decided tojoin the Maquis even if it meant giving up her career in Starfleet and, worst of all, betray Picard who she liked and respected.
Even if I do understand Ro, I must state that I feel very sorry for Picard in the last scene. He must have felt totally let down and betrayed by someone he liked and trusted.
However, this is a great episode, one of my favorite TNG episodes.
I must also state that Ro Laren is one of my TNG and overall Star Trek favorite characters.
And so is Picard too!
This is precisely why I like this episode so much. You can understand the motivations of both characters, Ro being that one who never really found a place even though she tried and Picard being that let down father figure. That final scene with Picard just sitting there is almost tragic in it's stillness.
