Predictions for Star Trek under Skydance?

[Steve Roby]

You fail to make the key distinction between Nazis in space and space Nazis.

Clumsy though it is, "Patterns of Force" at least had a message. "Zero Hour" is just Berman and Braga trashing the joint on the way out the door.

 

[valkyrie013]

Days of Yor is when Lower Decks and Prodigy were airing..

Sad Sad days when your best content, be it Trek or Star Wars.. Is the Animated series.

As For Enterprise. The whole thing was winding down, hell they were just reusing Voyager scripts at some point. Enterprise as a Concept was outstanding, but they gave them like 5 minutes to get it together after Voyager, and just done the same script formula from Voyager. It died becasue they let it die, and no one showed up for sub par writing. Like now.

 

[Mudd]

You fail to make the key distinction between Nazis in space and space Nazis.

Seriously?

This is just rhetoric to press a weak point, hardly a "key distinction."

Both brought in Nazis for the dramatic visuals and audience association. No other reason.

Would there be a straightforward way to tell the TOS story about a Federation academic wrongheadedly instituting a dictatorial regime to rescue a local culture?

Of course - in fact, it requires nothing but a few swipes of an editor's pencil.*

They just couldn't resist the melodramatic appeal of the iconography.**

You can fabricate an argument about the dramatic impact of the association, but that's all it is - making stuff up. Especially given the preposterous implausibility of the scenario.

No excuses can overcome that. "Planet of the Space Nazis."

A big part of why it's one of early Trek's worst.

*Easy as turning Romans into Romulans.
**And the budget savings.

 

[Steve Roby]

Seriously?

No, not seriously. It was like a joke. But...

Both brought in Nazis for the dramatic visuals and audience association. No other reason.

Would there be a straightforward way to tell the TOS story about a Federation academic wrongheadedly instituting a dictatorial regime to rescue a local culture?

Of course - in fact, it requires nothing but a few swipes of an editor's pencil.*

They just couldn't resist the melodramatic appeal of the iconography.**

Five years before Star Trek premiered, my parents were Canadian military stationed at bases in France and Germany. The war wasn't much more than a decade past when they were stationed overseas. When they married and got an apartment in Germany in 1961, their civilian landlords wouldn't talk about the war. If they found something like a Nazi-era 5-pfennig coin, or a Wehrmacht belt buckle, it wasn't something to show off, because people would freak out. Nazi stuff was a lot more than just visual impact in the 1960s. When Rod Serling used it in The Twilight Zone, he wasn't being allegorical, he was being blunt. So, in its way, was Star Trek shortly afterwards. In "Zero Hour," Braga and Berman were just leaving a wacky cliffhanger Manny Coto would have to resolve. Not really the same thing.

 

[Mudd]

WBD Shocker! Says Paramount Sweeter Offer Might Lead To Better Deal Than Netflix, Will Continue Talks With David Ellison Company

Warner Bros. Discovery said its board has determined that the revised proposal from Paramount could reasonably be expected to lead to a better offer.

deadline.com

"Netflix declined to comment." I'll bet!

 

[dinzy]

Will Kurtzman get axed? Maybe, probably will be given a chance to "right the boat" as he is still on contract for awhile. But will see. next 2 years is kind of spoken for with SA S2 and SNW 4 and 5.

Will the show pivot away from "Woke" stuff. Maybe, new owners are more conservative, so will probably trend in that direction.

Will they give us classical exploration, fun, cerebral stuff like days of yor? maybe.

As said. not enough information. its early days. But the status quo won't stay quo.

I just read that his contract was up this year. Googles AI says August. Not sure if that is true or not, but regardless, hard to call it being axed if a contract just ends.

I'd like to see a new take. Kurtzman Trek has been OK, but could be better. I would prefer if they could finish Academy regardless. Not a fan of shows getting canceled.

 

[Mudd]

Celebrations will be short-lived when the Ellisons appoint a new Trek honcho to replace Kurtzman.

I remember the haters celebrating when Enterprise was cancelled - "Good, that'll teach 'em. Now let's get back to Trek the way it was supposed to be!"

And so Paramount put JJ Abrams in charge and he created the Kelvinverse.

 

[Tomalak]

You don’t know what you’ve got ‘till it’s gone.

 

[HotRod]

The Devil you know....

 

[camdudetenger2018]

to me in my opinion it can go many ways

 

[Ovation]

to me in my opinion it can go many ways

Imagine if it went in many different directions all at the same time?

 

[fireproof78]

The Devil you know....

Once went down to Georgia.

 

[valkyrie013]

Then there are those saying, "If you don't support current trek, SA, then it will be cancelled and be gone FOREVER!"
Enterprise got canned, took 5 years but it came back, another few for TV.
If I'm not watching it because it sucks, or it isn't there to begin with.. its the same outcome. Me not watching Trek.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Celebrations will be short-lived when the Ellisons appoint a new Trek honcho to replace Kurtzman.

I remember the haters celebrating when Enterprise was cancelled - "Good, that'll teach 'em. Now let's get back to Trek the way it was supposed to be!"

And so Paramount put JJ Abrams in charge and he created the Kelvinverse.

It's only a matter of time until we get people saying they want True Trek like Discovery back!

 

[Tomalak]

It's only a matter of time until we get people saying they want True Trek like Discovery back!

See: Star Wars. Fanboys spent a decade hating George Lucas for the prequels, then he sold up and the prequels were re-evaluated as cinematic excellence.

Then Kathleen Kennedy because the new villain, and now it's already shifting to people realising that maybe she wasn't so bad.

 

[Soong-type Android]

See: Star Wars. Fanboys spent a decade hating George Lucas for the prequels, then he sold up and the prequels were re-evaluated as cinematic excellence.

The sequel trilogy was so bad that they made the terrible CGI laden prequels with its awful writing and wooden acting look good in comparison. I remember the days when The Phantom Menace was considered one of the worst films ever made.

 

[Tomalak]

The sequel trilogy was so bad that they made the terrible CGI laden prequels with its awful writing and wooden acting look good in comparison. I remember the days when The Phantom Menace was considered one of the worst films ever made.

It's the power of nostalgia. Old stuff is always more popular than new stuff. What was once new becomes old.

The people who were kids when the prequels came out grew up and were able to express positivity for the thing they enjoyed as kids. Previously the Gen Xers had free reign to moan that it wasn't as good as the filma they enjoyed when they were kids.

I guarantee the same will happen to the sequel trilogy over the next decade. Except for the last one. That just sucked.

It was the same with Enterprise - even a lot of Trek fans switched off, myself included, but now it's remembered with a fair amount of affection. Voyager had its renaissance on Netflix too.

The Kurtzman era will be remembered fondly by many when it ends, and something else replaces it.

 

[fireproof78]

The sequel trilogy was so bad that they made the terrible CGI laden prequels with its awful writing and wooden acting look good in comparison. I remember the days when The Phantom Menace was considered one of the worst films ever made.

That's some strange bullshit. The Prequels are still bad.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Imagine if it went in many different directions all at the same time?

its possible

 

[Set Harth]

I remember the days when The Phantom Menace was considered one of the worst films ever made.

Those people needed to see more films. They have no idea...