That "woman" is a little bigger than my thumb.
I know that size doesn't matter, but there are limits.
I know that size doesn't matter, but there are limits.
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Practical Women's Superhero Costume Redesigns
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I'll freely admit that I don't care for most superheroine costumes, regardless of "classic" design or not. I know that it is supposed to be a fantasy world, and that think on the outfit is probably overthinking it. Oh well, I overthink things and I freely admit this.
Personally, I like some of the costume designs that actually have a backstory to them. The one take on WW with a more Greek inspired look is great, in my opinion. Same thing with Batman, Spiderman and the new take on Daredevil all are fun for me to enjoy.
Now, I'll grant I never really got in to comics until recently, and the cover art often irritated me because it could be a bit, um, gratuitous. Regardless, if the outfit has history, or some importance to the character, then that's great. I guess I just want a reason.
Personally, I like some of the costume designs that actually have a backstory to them. The one take on WW with a more Greek inspired look is great, in my opinion. Same thing with Batman, Spiderman and the new take on Daredevil all are fun for me to enjoy.
Now, I'll grant I never really got in to comics until recently, and the cover art often irritated me because it could be a bit, um, gratuitous. Regardless, if the outfit has history, or some importance to the character, then that's great. I guess I just want a reason.
+1 to that.
Between Black Canary, Huntress, Nyssa al Ghul, and White Canary from the pics Locutus showed, the Arrowverse is doing a really good job being both practical and interesting. And assuming they don't make any silly changes, we can add Thea to that list as her Red Arrow/Speedy costume is Roy's, just resized. Of course, these are all characters with generally similar abilities and "street-level" designs.*gasp* What, actually take their characterizations into account?!
I always live in the real world, BJ. make no mistake.
Anyhoo, thing is, almost all superhero/superheroine outfits are impractical when looked at from a real world perspective. Spandexy, superthin outfits that look like they could shred easily if a hero/heroine were to be skidded along the ground... regardless of just how much skin was covered by the costume.
But it's a good thing this is all just fantasy so that folk can buy Into the notion that such outfits are more durable than they appear.
Anyhoo, thing is, almost all superhero/superheroine outfits are impractical when looked at from a real world perspective. Spandexy, superthin outfits that look like they could shred easily if a hero/heroine were to be skidded along the ground... regardless of just how much skin was covered by the costume.
But it's a good thing this is all just fantasy so that folk can buy Into the notion that such outfits are more durable than they appear.
*gasp* What, actually take their characterizations into account?!
Awfully sensitive and pretentious of me, of course.
(Sorry, martok, just razzing you; last one, I promise.
But "real world" cracks aside, I am genuinely puzzled, if you don't have a problem with taking character and background into account, as to why you think that only applies to new heroines.)
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No worries, BigJake. 
we've had snits before and gotten past them with no problems. No different now.
I'll reply in detail later. On a cell phone right now, and not getting the greatestreception right now.
we've had snits before and gotten past them with no problems. No different now. I'll reply in detail later. On a cell phone right now, and not getting the greatestreception right now.
Meh. Too plain, boring and same-y.
1. Wonder Woman.
The costume/title seemed to be a "prize". Also the weather, also they are superhuman who do not feel the cold, also they are immortal lesbians who objectified each other probably very well before they started visiting mans world. You can say that it's a bathing suit and reveals too much skin, but the suggested replacement is for someone who feels shame and the cold.
2. Supergirl.
Kara isn't invulnerable back home. So what her body used to need has no relation to what it needs now, or Kryptonian fashion. In fact, her "new" costume is derivative of Wonder Woman, which means that they got their costumes from the same place.
3. Elektra.
Almost looks more like a Samurai than a ninja. No big.
4. Captain Marvel.
Hate it. No flair.
5. Black Canary.
Generically fine.
6 Vampirella.
She looks like a Barmaid at a truckstop. I don't know much about Vampirella, but she is thousands of years old and pompous. Maybe she'd wear that ironically or to perfectly tailor herself as a lure, but that's just street clothes.
7. Powergirl.
So incredibly bland. Looks like a 1950s space suit.
8. Zantanna.
Dated. Looks like an extra from the Crow.
The costume/title seemed to be a "prize". Also the weather, also they are superhuman who do not feel the cold, also they are immortal lesbians who objectified each other probably very well before they started visiting mans world. You can say that it's a bathing suit and reveals too much skin, but the suggested replacement is for someone who feels shame and the cold.
2. Supergirl.
Kara isn't invulnerable back home. So what her body used to need has no relation to what it needs now, or Kryptonian fashion. In fact, her "new" costume is derivative of Wonder Woman, which means that they got their costumes from the same place.
3. Elektra.
Almost looks more like a Samurai than a ninja. No big.
4. Captain Marvel.
Hate it. No flair.
5. Black Canary.
Generically fine.
6 Vampirella.
She looks like a Barmaid at a truckstop. I don't know much about Vampirella, but she is thousands of years old and pompous. Maybe she'd wear that ironically or to perfectly tailor herself as a lure, but that's just street clothes.
7. Powergirl.
So incredibly bland. Looks like a 1950s space suit.
8. Zantanna.
Dated. Looks like an extra from the Crow.
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In a slightly different Office Space, that guy would have won Jennifer Aniston's heart eventually. He was happy with himself, and perfect at his job, and would have been more than eager to build her up and turn that sour puss into a productive employee.
The Zatanna approach looks like "Black Alice" and also almost like what Nico from Runaways was wearing in today's Marvel Previews.
Zee is as old as Batman.
Unless she stopped ageing in her 20s, or seems to have stopped ageing in her 20s, thanks to magic, then dressing like a "child" is hardly in synch with her... Fuck Chris Angel mindfreak the dopey big wet blouse.
Comics get a bad rap for treating women like sexualized meat products.
Blame Image almost exclusively, and Michael Turner was the worst of that lot.
Almost no one else tries to make porn for children so blatantly.
The Zatanna approach looks like "Black Alice" and also almost like what Nico from Runaways was wearing in today's Marvel Previews.
Zee is as old as Batman.
Unless she stopped ageing in her 20s, or seems to have stopped ageing in her 20s, thanks to magic, then dressing like a "child" is hardly in synch with her... Fuck Chris Angel mindfreak the dopey big wet blouse.
Comics get a bad rap for treating women like sexualized meat products.
Blame Image almost exclusively, and Michael Turner was the worst of that lot.
Almost no one else tries to make porn for children so blatantly.
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Ok, speaking strictly from a non-objectification of women point of view.
The uniforms look rather cookie-cutter to me. Like they were taken from a template.
Zatanna's outfit seems the most unique.
The uniforms look rather cookie-cutter to me. Like they were taken from a template.
Zatanna's outfit seems the most unique.
It seems to me that (without treating women like SMPs - see Guy's Post above) that the Heroines and Heroes would need Sidekicks well-versed in assisting in costume donning and doffing.
LadyMaid? (Wiki says this term is female Valet)
YeoMan?
ValetMan?
Unless, DonDoff SuperPower?
LadyMaid? (Wiki says this term is female Valet)
YeoMan?
ValetMan?
Unless, DonDoff SuperPower?
The Butleress?
What did happen on those batpoles between Stately Wayne manor's library, and the Batcave?
Robin standing on Bruce's Rib cage, out of breath, sill trying fruitlessly to string his legal guardian's girdle together?
This might be the outstanding bit that you may never have considered, but Wonder Woman spinning for her costume change, or Mary Marvel being struck by a magic bolt of lighting for her costume change, changed/applied these character's makeup during this same processes mystically and automatically!
1. Was the free makeup that was being slapped on these women (Mary was probably a 9 year old in the beginning, and not yet twenty before time leveled off.) by "magic" static, decided upon at one point in time and then never updated? If Wonder Woman started getting magic blue eye shadow swabbed onto her face in 1976, isn't she going to look laughable in 1996 when the (literally) bullet proof foundation that was en vogue 2 decades earlier just makes this immortal golem look like a tragic dated fashion victim?
2. How come the boys were n... Black Adam would have had eye liner? Ancient Egyptian (Kandaqian) style and all. Well I suppose that Captain Marvel might have had a little makeup? But I think I remember something about their super bodies being stored for and cared for in a another magical dimension (oh, maybe that was Miracle Man?)? So there's a caretaker making sure that the Marvel families Super bodies are in fighting trim, and gorgeous every time they're called forward by their mortal users.
3. If Wonder Woman's new face, slapped on every time she transforms from Diana Prince to Wonder Woman, is also controlled directed by a caretaker or a god, then if she pisses off by accident that person, Diana could wind up with a Joker Smile.
4. I think the transformation is more effective at cleaning a human body than a full Silkwood shower, if unwanted molecules are being pared or rendered. No bathing required for these people that can't be done better by spinning or summoning magic lighting.
What did happen on those batpoles between Stately Wayne manor's library, and the Batcave?
Robin standing on Bruce's Rib cage, out of breath, sill trying fruitlessly to string his legal guardian's girdle together?
This might be the outstanding bit that you may never have considered, but Wonder Woman spinning for her costume change, or Mary Marvel being struck by a magic bolt of lighting for her costume change, changed/applied these character's makeup during this same processes mystically and automatically!
1. Was the free makeup that was being slapped on these women (Mary was probably a 9 year old in the beginning, and not yet twenty before time leveled off.) by "magic" static, decided upon at one point in time and then never updated? If Wonder Woman started getting magic blue eye shadow swabbed onto her face in 1976, isn't she going to look laughable in 1996 when the (literally) bullet proof foundation that was en vogue 2 decades earlier just makes this immortal golem look like a tragic dated fashion victim?
2. How come the boys were n... Black Adam would have had eye liner? Ancient Egyptian (Kandaqian) style and all. Well I suppose that Captain Marvel might have had a little makeup? But I think I remember something about their super bodies being stored for and cared for in a another magical dimension (oh, maybe that was Miracle Man?)? So there's a caretaker making sure that the Marvel families Super bodies are in fighting trim, and gorgeous every time they're called forward by their mortal users.
3. If Wonder Woman's new face, slapped on every time she transforms from Diana Prince to Wonder Woman, is also controlled directed by a caretaker or a god, then if she pisses off by accident that person, Diana could wind up with a Joker Smile.
4. I think the transformation is more effective at cleaning a human body than a full Silkwood shower, if unwanted molecules are being pared or rendered. No bathing required for these people that can't be done better by spinning or summoning magic lighting.
I think Ron Popeil has a hand here!
In "A Matter of Time", when Professor Berlingoff Rasmussen came back from the 26th century to study history, he also went back to the 20th Century and stole Ron Popiel, notable American Inventor of mind-boggling things. (The "Inside the Shell" Egg Scrambler, "Spray-on Hair", and the "Pocket Fisherman" to name just a few). Anyway, the Prof made a deal with Ron, and for his freedom, Ron invented the "Popeil Spray On Spray Off Superhero Costume System"®. Marvel and DC locked up the rights, and the rest is...
...history?
A Matter of Time
In "A Matter of Time", when Professor Berlingoff Rasmussen came back from the 26th century to study history, he also went back to the 20th Century and stole Ron Popiel, notable American Inventor of mind-boggling things. (The "Inside the Shell" Egg Scrambler, "Spray-on Hair", and the "Pocket Fisherman" to name just a few). Anyway, the Prof made a deal with Ron, and for his freedom, Ron invented the "Popeil Spray On Spray Off Superhero Costume System"®. Marvel and DC locked up the rights, and the rest is...
...history?
A Matter of Time
It depends entirely on the artist and era.
90s and early 00s i consider as the era of the pornstar body, i.e. exactly how you describe (huge breasts, curvy body with tight fitting costumes, often also very revealing).
Nowadays, even though i haven't read a comic regularly in years, there are female heroes with normal (yet fit obviously) bodies with normal proportions which i welcome.
After all let's remind us who comics were originally written for and it's easy to understand the hypersexualized visual style.. the same applies to videogames, especially Konami ones, where i actually felt embarrassed a few years ago when i saw some gameplay scenes and humongous breasts wobbling around after the character made a move.
The original targets of comics were closer to breast feeding, than their first date.
Stimulating their sex drives, will just push those 10 year old boys towards 10 year old girls and away from comics.
Sexualizing women in comics was an unprofitable decision.
If you get a boner from an American comic, there's something wrong with you, not something right about the comic.
European comics are a horse of another filthy colour.
Stimulating their sex drives, will just push those 10 year old boys towards 10 year old girls and away from comics.
Sexualizing women in comics was an unprofitable decision.
If you get a boner from an American comic, there's something wrong with you, not something right about the comic.
European comics are a horse of another filthy colour.
Completely unnecessary. The "designer" has hang-ups that do not have a place in fantasy.
I never thought the TOS minisklrts looked practical, not when the crew members were on duty.
Definition of practical?
Weather permitting?
Danger preventativity?
Movement contrictivnessievness?
Have you worn a mini skirt recently Tim?
Sure people keep yelling at you to shave your legs, and it's a chore to tell those people to eat a bag of dicks and die, but you can shit where ever you want with no consequences, and your range of movement increases by 30 percent as if like you've got an extra hip.
It's like being a god almost.
Weather permitting?
Danger preventativity?
Movement contrictivnessievness?
Have you worn a mini skirt recently Tim?
Sure people keep yelling at you to shave your legs, and it's a chore to tell those people to eat a bag of dicks and die, but you can shit where ever you want with no consequences, and your range of movement increases by 30 percent as if like you've got an extra hip.
It's like being a god almost.