Possible warning about THX 1138 Blu-Ray

[Captain Craig]

I've never even done a firmware update on my BluRay. I wouldn't know how to do a frimware update, my BluRay isn't connected to anything but the TV. Heck what is firmware? Not sure if it has a slot for an SD card or USB either. Not things I looked at when I got the machine. It does have an ethernet port though.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I've never even done a firmware update on my BluRay. I wouldn't know how to do a frimware update, my BluRay isn't connected to anything but the TV.

You don't have to have an Internet-connected player (although it does help) to do a firmware update. If it's not connected to the 'net, you update the player by downloading a file and burning it to disc, which you then put in the player. Or you can ask the company that makes the player to send you a disc.

Heck what is firmware?

Basically it's the software that lets the player deal with the disc. Blu-Rays and their players are a lot more complicated than standard ones. So if a BR is elaborate enough, some players need to be updated to deal with it.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Heck what is firmware? .

When you flash your software it becomes firmware.

 

[clint g]

Blu-Ray is a cancer. Your best bet these days is to buy the Blu-Ray, file it away unopened, download a rip via bittorrent and stream it to your television.

That's true Anarcho-Socialism; fuck the man, but only after you've bought his product.

BTW, isn't it against board rules to advocate, or even recommend, downloading illegal rips off torrent sites?

I think it stops being illegal if you legally own the product.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

^^ These days, I'm not so sure.

 

[Pilot Ace]

Blu-Ray is a cancer. Your best bet these days is to buy the Blu-Ray, file it away unopened, download a rip via bittorrent and stream it to your television.

That's true Anarcho-Socialism; fuck the man, but only after you've bought his product.

BTW, isn't it against board rules to advocate, or even recommend, downloading illegal rips off torrent sites?

I think it stops being illegal if you legally own the product.

Not if you're doing it through bittorrent, because that P2P protocol requires the transfer of information between all users (both upload and download), so you are effectively disseminating the product as well as acquiring it. The disseminating part is the especially illegal part.

 

[Starbreaker]

Never heard of such craziness... I do have a sizable hard drive with my PS3, though. You can't blame Blu-Ray, though. Blame the company that put it out without realizing they were being idiots.

 

[Rii]

]I think it stops being illegal if you legally own the product.

Nah. It certainly ceases to be even remotely objectionable to anyone who isn't a complete wanker, though. A fine example of the distinction between legality and morality.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

^^ Gotta agree with ya there

 

[Servo]

]I think it stops being illegal if you legally own the product.

Nah. It certainly ceases to be even remotely objectionable to anyone who isn't a complete wanker, though. A fine example of the distinction between legality and morality.

Who said anything about it being objectionable?

 

[FordSVT]

That's true Anarcho-Socialism; fuck the man, but only after you've bought his product.

BTW, isn't it against board rules to advocate, or even recommend, downloading illegal rips off torrent sites?

I think it stops being illegal if you legally own the product.

Not if you're doing it through bittorrent, because that P2P protocol requires the transfer of information between all users (both upload and download), so you are effectively disseminating the product as well as acquiring it. The disseminating part is the especially illegal part.

That's not true as you can simply set your upload speed to 0 kbps or shut off uploading in the options menu of whatever client you're using. Your download speed will be affected and leeching is considered a faux pas in the torrent community, but w/e.

I'm not advocating, just correcting. I don't see anything immoral about downloading a movie you purchased though.

Don't a lot of new movies come with a digital copy or rights to one you can DL anyway?

 

[Pilot Ace]

I think it stops being illegal if you legally own the product.

Not if you're doing it through bittorrent, because that P2P protocol requires the transfer of information between all users (both upload and download), so you are effectively disseminating the product as well as acquiring it. The disseminating part is the especially illegal part.

That's not true as you can simply set your upload speed to 0 kbps or shut off uploading in the options menu of whatever client you're using. Your download speed will be affected and leeching is considered a faux pas in the torrent community, but w/e.

I'm not advocating, just correcting. I don't see anything immoral about downloading a movie you purchased though.

Don't a lot of new movies come with a digital copy or rights to one you can DL anyway?

This will probably work in the short term or on public sites, but most don't use it this way. I was speaking more toward the operating procedures of bittorrent in general. 'Requires' was a stronger term than I should have used.

I download movies, television, etc. I don't own all the time. So, I'm not coming from a moral high ground of any sort. Without all the piracy I've taken part in over the years, I wouldn't own a fraction of the DVDs, music, etc. that I have purchased. At least in my case, acquiring more media has directly led to purchasing more media.

Some do, but they are DRMed pretty heavily last I heard. Studios and larger businesses rarely like they're product to go out there completely naked, as it were.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Something I have commonly done when I buy PC games is immediately download a cracked version, mostly to get rid of disc checks. Those annoy the shit out of me.

It's also why I like Steam: no discs at all! Though I realize that's a whole 'nother world of DRM in itself.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

Never heard of such craziness... I do have a sizable hard drive with my PS3, though. You can't blame Blu-Ray, though. Blame the company that put it out without realizing they were being idiots.

BTW, will that special feature that allows me to use a web cam to make my own commentary (BD Live or whatever its called) be on my PS3 (I plan to buy a secondhand one).

 

[Starbreaker]

PS3 does support USB webcams.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

^Thanks.

 

[clint g]

Something I have commonly done when I buy PC games is immediately download a cracked version, mostly to get rid of disc checks. Those annoy the shit out of me.

It's also why I like Steam: no discs at all! Though I realize that's a whole 'nother world of DRM in itself.

The beauty about steam though is that although it is the most DRMed product out there, it is unobtrusive to the user. So long as it doesn't get in the way, no one cares. Too bad certain other organizations don't get the hint.

 

[Captain Craig]

Steam? I'd need a google tutorial to know where this conversation has gone.

 

[clint g]

Just roll with it

 

[Servo]

Steam? I'd need a google tutorial to know where this conversation has gone.

Steam is basically iTunes for PC games.