I wouldn't say confusing. I'd be more inclined to say that you're determined not to understand the meaning behind my words.
I actually consider myself pretty well versed in the English language, but the way you debate...never mind.
Poll: Janeway & Gender
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I wouldn't say confusing. I'd be more inclined to say that you're determined not to understand the meaning behind my words.
I actually consider myself pretty well versed in the English language, but the way you debate...never mind.
You seem the same way to me, like you're determined not to understand what I'm trying to say.
I wouldn't say confusing. I'd be more inclined to say that you're determined not to understand the meaning behind my words.
I actually consider myself pretty well versed in the English language, but the way you debate...never mind.
But I think it's easy to misread people online; I'm sure neither of us is trying to misunderstand the other. I'll try to keep that in mind in the future.
Thrawn, I'm usually with you on your posts with regard to differentiation between opinion and fact. However in this one I do believe that the existence of the word "seems" does indeed make that statement an opinion and not a statement of incorrect facts.
Had the statement been "...it is a senseless killing just for the heck of it." as opposed to "...it seems like a senseless killing..." says to me that from the perspective of the speaker it feels or seems like it was senseless, whether or not it really was.
Sure it may seem one way and be another, but that doesn't negate the fact that it still felt that way or came across that way to one individual.
Well, I voted I liked her but I'm not sure about the converse. I probably shouldn't have broken up with her via text. In-person is usually better.
"Is this thread still going?"
Indeed. Where is it from?
From the cutesy replacement of technobabble with everyday items and the semi-random bolding of words, I'd say Mad, Cracked or a magazine of that sort.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Yep, "Mad" Voyager satire.
Thanks for your light note in a thread that has gotten quite heated. I'm a Janeway lover and would defend her to the last but wonder at the parsing of hairs over semantics. Even with a board as global as this the intent usually seems evident.
^ You can find many reasons why people like Janeway either in the Voyager forum or the "Favorite Captains" thread over in General Trek. Perhaps others will want to repeat them here but for me the sun is shining and the puppy needs a good long walk. (A tired puppy is a good puppy. )
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No surprise there.
Which hasn't stopped people assuming (loudly and often) that Golden hated Tuvok, because she'd shunted him out of her main plotline. For two duologies.
I'm frustrated that most of these ongoing VOY/Janeway complaints seem to demand that ST tie-ins must come with some guarantee that any variation or character arc must be settled fast, or there at least be assurances that major changes will be reversed by a certain date. In the TV episodes, unless it was a two-parter, almost every shocking event had to be "repaired" because the regular cast had five-year contracts. Novels written after the end of a series can afford to be different. Each of the relaunches have been designed to permit longer story arcs, and yet I detect a distinct lack of patience and trust.
Being TV tie-ins, the story is never going to go so far from the parent show's status quo as to be unidentifiable and, with a little patience, most of ST's character deaths are traditionally undone. When your scope for what makes a novel successful (ie. strong focus on a youthful, long-lived Kes, everyone back on the ship like a happy family, and an alive Janeway), you're bound to hit disappointment. Over and over again.
What you want is seen as stagnation and repetition to others.
We know you think that. Your view has not changed since these threads started several months ago. And yet you keep restating them.
I just think that there is a core of fans that WAY over invested in this fictional character. So what, she's dead, move the frak on. Its not as if she is the only character in the Star Trek universe. These character, well except for The Sisko, are all supposed to be mortal. Thus they all have the capacity to be killed off.
Janeway is not the begining and end of Star Trek.
I think the door swings both ways, though. You can like her, and like her to the point of ardent fanaticism, or you can dislike her to the same point of fanaticism.
Personally, I always liked her characterization, even though she was written a bit schizo from time to time. She seemed willing to charge ahead even when she made mistakes with the goal of fixing those mistakes, seemed brave, and determined perhaps beyond anything else. I also admired her curiosity.
Personally, I always liked her characterization, even though she was written a bit schizo from time to time. She seemed willing to charge ahead even when she made mistakes with the goal of fixing those mistakes, seemed brave, and determined perhaps beyond anything else. I also admired her curiosity.
I put down that I dont like her. Just her personally. Can you imagine hearing that voice everyday for seven years. Like nails on a chalkboard. I think she was a good commander and have no problems with women in command. Just would have dropped her out an airlock so I did not have to hear that voice.
Of course she is. Haven't you seen kimc's avatar?
I actually love her voice. It's part of KM's and Janeway's special charm.
However, she might be a smoker, but that has nothing to do with her voice. If you find some of her earlier stuff, you'll discover that she sounds just about the same. I'm sure it has an effect, but not that great an effect.
About why I love Janeway...I've tried to explain that a million times, but nobody here seemed to listen so I gave up.
However, she might be a smoker, but that has nothing to do with her voice. If you find some of her earlier stuff, you'll discover that she sounds just about the same. I'm sure it has an effect, but not that great an effect.
About why I love Janeway...I've tried to explain that a million times, but nobody here seemed to listen so I gave up.
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