Please explain this before I rate it (spoilers)

[hxclespaulplayer]

I was expecting the timeline to be reset before the end of the movie. I mean, Vulcan remained blown up. Was something actually done about this, or will all future Trek movies be set in this alternate universe? If so, I'm a little pissed.

2 nits:

A nokia comm system in Kirks' car... brands in the 23rd century, wtf?

The Kelvin carried 800 people, yet the Enterprise only carries 300 and is the flagship... didn't carrying that many people on a vessel not come in until the turn of the century?

Otherwise, an above average from me. Quinto was awesome as Spock, and the way Trek was respect whilst trying to make it "cool" again was pulled off very well. I just don't like the fact that the timeline seemingly wasn't reset at the end.

 

[Jeri]

Well, it will be interesting to see Nimoy Spock rebuilding Vulcan civilization on the suitable colony planet he found.

 

[Small White Car]

1) The Nokia unit was in a 300 year old antique car. No problem there. (Likewise, calling something a 'Bud Classic' in no way means the company is still in operation. Just that someone makes something that tastes like a 300 year old beer. Hardly unbelievable.)

2) No one said what the Kelvin was doing when it was attacked. We've seen starships transport colonists all the time. It's certainly possible that's what they were doing at the time.

 

[DiSiLLUSiON]

I'm sorry to say this to you, topicstarter, but: Yes, Vulcan remains blown up. And I'm damn glad for that.

 

[curson]

The 800 on the Kelvin made me think too, but I don't see how this should/could impact the judgment on the movie. There are a thousands of reasons for having that number of people on board. The other "odd" number I thought about was the 10000 Vulcans evacuated in that short time from the surface. I know it's a relatively small number, but the notice was sure a short one, and it's still a massive number of people to move... again, nothing that impacted my liking of the movie at all.

I found the Nokia gizmo on the car quite funny, does anyone actually know what's the song played when young Kirk switches off his uncle's call? It was good!

This movie was definitely not hard-core science fiction, not even close to being one, but I wasn't expecting it. For my share of technobabble (which I absolutely ADORE) I'll go find a good episode with Data, Dax or 7of9

 

[Small White Car]

I'm sorry to say this to you, topicstarter, but: Yes, Vulcan remains blown up. And I'm damn glad for that.

He's confused because he's not used to a Star Trek movie where things actually happen that matter. I can see how that would be new and scary!

 

[Ovation]

Is it clear that 800 people were on the Kelvin? Could there have been a station/other ship/research outpost right nearby? (doesn't matter to me, but just offering alternatives)

As for no "re-set button" ending--it's about time that permanent consequences result from time travel on Trek.

And, I for one, am very GRATEFUL the "technobabble" was at a minimum.

 

[O'Dib]

Sabotage by Beastie Boys

 

[hxclespaulplayer]

1) The Nokia unit was in a 300 year old antique car. No problem there. (Likewise, calling something a 'Bud Classic' in no way means the company is still in operation. Just that someone makes something that tastes like a 300 year old beer. Hardly unbelievable.)

It sure didn't seem like that Nokia communications device was from the 21st century. I dunno, it was just... weird.

I was about to nit about the "Cardassian Sunrise" drink, but I guess if they were mentioned on ENT, then it's not too much of a stretch that the feds had met them by the 23rd...

Guys, I'm really torn on this one. I was ready to give an above average up until the timeline wasn't resolved. But I don't feel it deserves a poor, because most of the movie was great. I dunno, it may just have to grow on me, but I think I'll have to give it a rating pending as I just can't bring myself to rate it based on the non-closure.

BTW... cinema was about 70% full. The screen looked only about 3-4 times bigger than my one at home. Of course it would be much more, but at home, I almost have to turn my head to see all the action. At the cinema, I could see the whole screen in like half my field of vision. Lots of geeks in the audience, a chubby crowd and lots of glasses - amazingly, nobody seemed to get the 47 reference, and a couple of other nods.

Sure, if it restarts the franchise, then good, but I can't see Tuvok existing... I mean, out of 10,000 Vulcans, compared to 6 billion, what are the chances?

 

[MikeS]

The other "odd" number I thought about was the 10000 Vulcans evacuated in that short time from the surface. I know it's a relatively small number, but the notice was sure a short one, and it's still a massive number of people to move... again, nothing that impacted my liking of the movie at all.

The 10,000 probably includes Vulcans that were "off-world" - colonies, ships, diplomatic corp etc...

 

[Chess Piece Face]

I am thrilled that Vulcan remains destroyed. Real events with consequences and NO RESET BUTTON is exactly what Trek has needed for years. The event itself isn't even really that important IMO.

 

[Jeri]

Sabotage by Beastie Boys

My husband commented he enjoyed that bit.

 

[Gertch]

Yes, Vulcan remains blown up. And I'm damn glad for that.

a Star Trek movie where things actually happen that matter. I can see how that would be new

Taking out the snarky bits I find this franchise development extremely refreshing.

 

[Plecostomus]

Comment on the K having more crew than the Enterprise:

Pike mentioned the ship hadn't been christened yet, they were going out to assist Vulcan... And it seems they were having problems restoring communications at one point Spock was going to assist.

Maybe they were slightly under-staffed due to the rushed launch? I mean Sulu was a replacement for someone else.

OTOH, Maybe recent advances in automation allowed them to operate a bigger more powerful ship with fewer people.

Dunno yet, I'll have to watch it a few more times. I'm leaning twords the understaff'd idea myself because they attached Scotty to the engine room, and didn't promote from within, and McCoy ended up senior medical officer when the original doctor got Deck Six'd.

 

[pookha]

Is it clear that 800 people were on the Kelvin? Could there have been a station/other ship/research outpost right nearby? (doesn't matter to me, but just offering alternatives)

As for no "re-set button" ending--it's about time that permanent consequences result from time travel on Trek.

And, I for one, am very GRATEFUL the "technobabble" was at a minimum.

were they responding to some type of report.. so yeah there could have been another ship, station ect near by.
if so i could see why pike would have added them into the number of people saved.

 

[NCC-1701-B]

The other "odd" number I thought about was the 10000 Vulcans evacuated in that short time from the surface. I know it's a relatively small number, but the notice was sure a short one, and it's still a massive number of people to move... again, nothing that impacted my liking of the movie at all.

The 10,000 probably includes Vulcans that were "off-world" - colonies, ships, diplomatic corp etc...

Yeah, thats what i am thinking, although evacuating 10,000 people using transporters isnt impossible, and the film isnt in real-time, is it?

OT: Haha! someone else from liverpool

 

[indranee]

well, the beauty of it is that if, IF they want to... they can always "visit" the original timeline FROM this one

yes, I'm all for having my cake and gobbling it.

 

[MikeS]

OT: Haha! someone else from liverpool

Small world eh?! I watched it at the FACT yesterday. Great place. Big seats and they even let you drink beer during the show.

None of that crappy product-placed Bud for me though - Cains all the way

 

[nx1701g]

The 800 number onboard the Kelvin isn't all that surprising. It was built 25 years before the Enterprise was so its possible that the Enterprise is more automated than the Kelvin was.

 

[nx1701g]

Sorry I don't know why it double posted.