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Please don't name him Owen

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Data Soong

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Haven't fisnished Atonement yet so I dont know if Tom Paris junior has been born yet, but whats with the horrble trek novel baby names??!?!?

Natasha Riker? Will and Deanna knew Tasha less than a year and named their baby after her? They weren't that close.

Rene Jacques Robert Francois Picard. :wtf: Wait, what? ! How many dead relatives can we squeeze into this insufferable little brat?

I have a gut feeling New Baby Paris is gonna be Owen, please come up with something original.
 
Data Soong said:
Haven't fisnished Atonement yet so I dont know if Tom Paris junior has been born yet, but whats with the horrble trek novel baby names??!?!?

Natasha Riker? Will and Deanna knew Tasha less than a year and named their baby after her? They weren't that close.

Rene Jacques Robert Francois Picard. :wtf: Wait, what? ! How many dead relatives can we squeeze into this insufferable little brat?

I have a gut feeling New Baby Paris is gonna be Owen, please come up with something original.
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My thoughts exactly.

Unlike you I like little René. And Picard is conservative. I simply ignore all of the boy's other names.

Little Tasha is also cute. It could have been worse: Betty Lwaxana Riker-Troi.

And the Riker-Troi nonsense. Two first names and the double family name is too much for me. Tasha Riker is enough.

Rebecca Jae Sisko is also a combination of female family member names if I'm not mistaken.

So B'Elanna's newborn name is going to be: John Owen Michael Paris or Mike Owen Paris II (like they do with Kings: Henry VIII and so on). :devil: :ack:
 
I'll admit my first response to this was ":lol:", although I have no problems with due-to-the-dead names, and given the timing of Owen's death and the delicate situation with Julia Paris, it would make a great deal of sense that they'd choose it. I'd prefer they didn't, but if they do/did, it works for me.

I find names in real life to be conservative and unoriginal far too much of the time. ;) But I believe names should be picked carefully and reasoned through at length, and if B'Elanna and Tom pick Owen they'll certainly have done that, so all's good.
 
Data Soong said:
Natasha Riker? Will and Deanna knew Tasha less than a year and named their baby after her? They weren't that close.
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It was a bit of a stretch, I admit. But I wrote Over a Torrent Sea while grieving for my cat Natasha (which informed a lot of the book), and I wanted to pay tribute to her. (Her original owners named her after Natasha Fatale from Rocky and Bullwinkle, but when we adopted her, I kept the name because of the Tasha Yar connection.)

Anyway, closeness isn't necessarily proportional to the length of a relationship. I have fonder memories of some people I knew for a brief amount of time than I do toward others I knew for many years. In some cases, the brevity of my time with them makes me miss them more. And having lost a friend to death can intensify the feelings you associate with them.

But Deanna and Tasha were portrayed as close friends during the first season, on those few occasions where attention was paid to their off-duty lives. And while I don't recall any particular closeness between Tasha and Riker, she was important to Picard as a protegee, to Data as a onetime lover, to Worf as a fallen warrior he honored by taking her place, etc. She mattered to Riker's friends, so she would've mattered to him.
 
Data Soong said:
Rene Jacques Robert Francois Picard. :wtf: Wait, what? ! How many dead relatives can we squeeze into this insufferable little brat?
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Two. You can count them. They're right there.

And what exactly is bratty or insufferable about the kid?
 
I come from a family, where the few existing males were named Christian or Rudolf. That's a little boring over the time. Germans tend to add a "Junior" instead of "II" behind the name.

On the other hand, there exist names like "North West". I rather prefer the traditional choices: Owen Paris II or Owen Paris Junior......
 
Idran said:
Data Soong said:
Rene Jacques Robert Francois Picard. :wtf: Wait, what? ! How many dead relatives can we squeeze into this insufferable little brat?
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Two. You can count them. They're right there.

And what exactly is bratty or insufferable about the kid?
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The OP may not like the choice of names in the ST novelverse. That can be discussed.

And René is everything, but he is definitely not a brat. I like how relaxed Jean-Luc is with his son.
 
It's unlikely that anyone would call his/her child after Data.... And I guess he's fine with that.

And there's a backstory as to the name Tasha/Natasha I didn't know about. Thanks for sharing this story with us, Christopher.
 
Kilana2 said:
The OP may not like the choice of names in the ST novelverse. That can be discussed.

And René is everything, but he is definitely not a brat. I like how relaxed Jean-Luc is with his son.
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Oh, I didn't mean that he couldn't talk about it, just that I thought his complaint was a little overblown. (And repeated, to be fair; he made essentially the same criticism in another thread months ago. It's not the first time he's criticized the names or called Rene a brat, and I don't remember him explaining what he meant about Rene the first time either. :p )
 
I haven't given it much thought but who else are they going to name him after? Tuvok? Chakotay? Harry Kim? Neelix.....

I 'suppose' he could be named John after Torres' father but that depend on how her relationship with her dad goes. John Owen wouldn't be so bad. They could go with Thomas Owen....John Thomas....they could even throw in Eugene as a sort of back handed Lit tribute to Gene Roddenberry but that would be a BIG stretch.

Or they could forgo all that and name him Paul McCartney or after some astronaut. Tom does have a thing for history. :D

I haven't seen enough of Picard's kid to know if he is 'bratty' or not. He seems to stay mostly in the background but then I haven't gotten around to reading all those books yet.

I'm just glad Riker and Troi's daughter arrived safely...the name didn't really matter.
 
Do people really name their kids after people they know that much at all? My first name is "Steve" just because my parents liked the sound of it. (My middle name, however, is after my grandfather.)
 
Stevil2001 said:
Do people really name their kids after people they know that much at all? My first name is "Steve" just because my parents liked the sound of it. (My middle name, however, is after my grandfather.)
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Exactly! I named my daughter Ava because when I was watching Wall-E the way he said Eeeevvaaa reminded us of ava so we went with that.

We named our son Eli, cuz its a good strong name. Don't have any Ava's or Eli's in my family and dont know any personally.
 
In my experience, most parents actually try to avoid naming their kids after pre-existing people.
 
Stevil2001 said:
Do people really name their kids after people they know that much at all? My first name is "Steve" just because my parents liked the sound of it. (My middle name, however, is after my grandfather.)
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All three of our kids have family names.
 
In real life people adapt names from other cultures - so maybe a name from another federation culture

"Spock Paris" has a ring to it :-)
 
I have a couple friends who have named children after towns. Maybe in the future people will name their kids after moons? Benzar Paris.
 
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