Playstation 3 busted wide open.

[darthraidr]

so, how is Activision to blame for this? As best i understand, they are a publisher. They pay developers to... wait for it... develop games. They assist at times in providing testers, but so do Sony, MS and Nintendo.

Well we can blame the developers directly if you like. Thought we were doing you lot a favour by going for the guys holding the purse strings instead, under the premise that they might have some say about whether or not man-hours are invested in such time-wasting nonsense as developing a non-shit online architecture.

you should place blame where appropriate, not where convenient. i'd say most of the blame lies with Sony. a large chunk of blame lands on the hackers. very little lands at the feet of the third party publishers. very little should be placed on the developers. because at some point, devs need to assume features or security stated by Sony are actually valid.

but i dont know the whole situation. i dont know the details of what was hacked or how the hackers are cheating exactly.

 

[firehawk12]

so just out of interest if the ps3 codes been hacked/cracked could someone actually get into someone elses psn account and possibly use it themselves? if so this could be quite a big problem.

I would hope all server side info is still secure, even if you could push code like this into a game.

I expect lots of account/system bans though. That's got to be the only way to deal with this.

 

[sikkbones]

2 words... playstation 4.

 

[Switch]

so, how is Activision to blame for this? As best i understand, they are a publisher. They pay developers to... wait for it... develop games. They assist at times in providing testers, but so do Sony, MS and Nintendo.

Well we can blame the developers directly if you like. Thought we were doing you lot a favour by going for the guys holding the purse strings instead, under the premise that they might have some say about whether or not man-hours are invested in such time-wasting nonsense as developing a non-shit online architecture.

you should place blame where appropriate, not where convenient. i'd say most of the blame lies with Sony. a large chunk of blame lands on the hackers. very little lands at the feet of the third party publishers. very little should be placed on the developers. because at some point, devs need to assume features or security stated by Sony are actually valid.

but i dont know the whole situation. i dont know the details of what was hacked or how the hackers are cheating exactly.

Yeah, screw Sony for keeping the PS3 secure years longer than Wii or X360! And developers totally shouldn't have anticipated that PS3 would at some point be cracked just like most every other system in existence.

 

[JoeZhang]

And news just in....Are activision considering closing COD on PSN

i wonder if this final push from all those ps3 players flooding the IW forums has now forced them into actually doing something....possible behind the scene both Activision and Sony are working on something.

At this stage it may just be Activision scare mongering, to see if threatening to close the servers deters people from using exploits.

surely this will simply encourage them to do it more to see if they can actually get it taken down.

 

[Jadzia]

What is the aim of those using exploits?

1. To destroy the game.
2. To run amok online, and enjoy being able to shape the game world to their fickle tastes.

I'll guess it's reason two. On that assumption, threatening to close the servers (and even doing so temporarily) would be a form of negative reinforcement that encourages playing the game without exploits.

 

[JoeZhang]

What is the aim of those using exploits?

1. To destroy the game.
2. To run amok online, and enjoy being able to shape the game world to their fickle tastes.

I'll guess it's reason two. On that assumption, threatening to close the servers (and even doing so temporarily) would be a form of negative reinforcement that encourages playing the game without exploits.

Naw, far more bragging rights attached to "and we got them to take down the server" than "I made "fuck head" appear on the screen"*


* happened to me this morning.

 

[Switch]

What is the aim of those using exploits?

1. To destroy the game.
2. To run amok online, and enjoy being able to shape the game world to their fickle tastes.

Or

3. To annoy Servo.

 

[gh4chiefs]

What is the aim of those using exploits?

1. To destroy the game.
2. To run amok online, and enjoy being able to shape the game world to their fickle tastes.

I'll guess it's reason two. On that assumption, threatening to close the servers (and even doing so temporarily) would be a form of negative reinforcement that encourages playing the game without exploits.

But #2 results in #1 eventually.

 

[LightningStorm]

What is the aim of those using exploits?

1. To destroy the game.
2. To run amok online, and enjoy being able to shape the game world to their fickle tastes.

Or

3. To annoy Servo.

Now you're just pushing his buttons and this constitutes trolling. So you have an infraction for trolling.

Comments to PM

 

[RyuRoots]

Many thought that was a bullshit choice and set about opening up the PS3 themselves. I don't blame them at all, either. You buy this hardware, it should be yours to do with as you please. Sony shouldn't get to tell you what you can and can't do with it.

Maybe if a certain bunch of dickheads hadn't abused the privilige, Sony wouldn't have felt the need to remove the option for everyone. And no, the hardware shouldn't be yours to do with as you please, if what you please involves copyright infringement or other illegal activities.

I can live without a PS3 that runs Linux, as can everyone. You don't buy a toaster, and then complain that the company who made it wont let you roast a chicken with it.

Truest thing in this whole thread. Pirates are a cancer, and people who broke the PS3 knew damn well that they'd be opening it up to more and more piracy, which hurts the whole industry. So it's very much a "thanks for nothing" situation where I kinda want to just give the middle finger to the people responsible.

 

[Sephiroth]

I wonder if Sony is gonna have this guy killed, quite frankly, a couple of these assholes found vivisected will do tons to curb piracy

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I wonder if Sony is gonna have this guy killed, quite frankly, a couple of these assholes found vivisected will do tons to curb piracy

Yeah, having people who cracked a game console murdered, that's certainly a proportionate and reasonable response.

 

[Sephiroth]

what can I say? I like killin'

 

[Robert Maxwell]

what can I say? I like killin'

Soldier on, Keyboard Kommando.

 

[Sephiroth]

I do think I make a valid point, "sorry Seph, the $300 you just dropped on a new PS3 has now been made a total waste cause of this jackass" and what's gonna happen to this guy? He's gonna get insane rich off this, there's no consenquences for his jackassery

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I do think I make a valid point, "sorry Seph, the $300 you just dropped on a new PS3 has now been made a total waste cause of this jackass" and what's gonna happen to this guy? He's gonna get insane rich off this, there's no consenquences for his jackassery

The people who did this aren't going to get rich. In fact, they'll probably be sued into oblivion. So, you know, take comfort in that.

 

[Sephiroth]

yeah, Sony gets his parent's basement and his '87 hatchback and afterwards he gets one hell of a tech job

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Life just ain't fair, is it?

 

[Kataaran]

Blaming the crackers is akin to blaming Ford because some drunken fuckwit plowed down a kid in one of their cars.