Playstation 3 busted wide open.

[Robert Maxwell]

It wasn't the fear that somebody might misuse it, it was the fact that people did misuse it.

And rather than attempt to fix a feature of the console that some had misused, they outright removed it. If it turned out people were using the console's ability to play Blu-ray movies in order to facilitate a cheating method, would it be acceptable for Sony to remove that feature from the console entirely?

 

[Servo]

It wasn't the fear that somebody might misuse it, it was the fact that people did misuse it.

And rather than attempt to fix a feature of the console that some had misused, they outright removed it. If it turned out people were using the console's ability to play Blu-ray movies in order to facilitate a cheating method, would it be acceptable for Sony to remove that feature from the console entirely?

Maybe it was easier to remove it than to fix it. Maybe they've removed it until it can be reintroduced properly. Who knows. Frankly, I don't care. The fact remains that it's removal does nothing to affect your ability to play games, play blu-rays, browse the net, stream video, use PSN...etc. What Geohot has done has fucked up the online play for everyone else.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

^^^You not joking, as with MW2 they have now turned their attention to GT5, they have already managed to crack the save game, and of course the Trophy system is now dead in the water thanks to these twats.

But hey, a small minority get to give it to the man so i guess the rest of us can go jump in the lake, assuming though we continue to buy the games and support the console so the pirates and hacker can continue to enjoy ruining it for us all while playing the latest games for free.

 

[Switch]

 

[Servo]

What the hell does that even mean? Aside, of course, from highlighting the fact that you have nothing of worth to say.

 

[Jadzia]

^^^You not joking, as with MW2 they have now turned their attention to GT5, they have already managed to crack the save game, and of course the Trophy system is now dead in the water thanks to these twats.

But hey, a small minority get to give it to the man so i guess the rest of us can go jump in the lake, assuming though we continue to buy the games and support the console so the pirates and hacker can continue to enjoy ruining it for us all while playing the latest games for free.

Most hackers would prefer that you call these activities cracking. Both involve esoteric skills, but it's like distinguishing light from dark.

If this is anything like the cracking scenes of old, it will be like a race to see which team can break open a game the quickest from the day it is released. It's surely a worrying time for developers who have just invested five years and millions of pounds on a project, to wonder if their new game is going to be trashed a couple of days after release.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

^^^You not joking, as with MW2 they have now turned their attention to GT5, they have already managed to crack the save game, and of course the Trophy system is now dead in the water thanks to these twats.

But hey, a small minority get to give it to the man so i guess the rest of us can go jump in the lake, assuming though we continue to buy the games and support the console so the pirates and hacker can continue to enjoy ruining it for us all while playing the latest games for free.

Most hackers would prefer that you call these activities cracking. Both involve esoteric skills, but it's like distinguishing light from dark.

If this is anything like the cracking scenes of old, it will be like a race to see which team can break open a game the quickest from the day it is released. It's surely a worrying time for developers who have just invested five years and millions of pounds on a project, to wonder if their new game is going to be trashed a couple of days after release.

Well funnily enough Gt5 is now the hackers next target, they have managed to hack the game save data and are now racing with modded cars....so you can bet that online gaming component of this game will soon fall i to their sights.

Personally I'm not simply going to stick with game that's are either single player only or coop at this time until is see what Sony are going to do about it, i see no need to take a chance on wasting my cash on games with a online component that might be susceptible to this online hacking nonsense some seem to get a trill out of doing.

But there is a silver lining in all this........Little Big planet 2 is out this Friday and i have the collectors edition on pre-order....love that game to bits.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

^^^You not joking, as with MW2 they have now turned their attention to GT5, they have already managed to crack the save game, and of course the Trophy system is now dead in the water thanks to these twats.

But hey, a small minority get to give it to the man so i guess the rest of us can go jump in the lake, assuming though we continue to buy the games and support the console so the pirates and hacker can continue to enjoy ruining it for us all while playing the latest games for free.

Most hackers would prefer that you call these activities cracking. Both involve esoteric skills, but it's like distinguishing light from dark.

If this is anything like the cracking scenes of old, it will be like a race to see which team can break open a game the quickest from the day it is released. It's surely a worrying time for developers who have just invested five years and millions of pounds on a project, to wonder if their new game is going to be trashed a couple of days after release.

Of course, if the developers put any kind of sensible security and sanity-checking into their server modules, they would have very little to worry about with regard to cheating. Unilaterally trusting all data from clients is a terrible approach for precisely this reason. PS3 devs are just going to have to start using the same kinds of measures PC developers do.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

^^^At this stage i personally would be happy with any measures that keep these script kiddies out of online games......but we still have to wait and see how Sony are going to deal with these latest issue, I'm hoping its a massive update that firmly hits the hackers right over the head with the ban hammer for their hardware.....not a perfect solution but at this stage its better than nothing.

And news just in....Are activision considering closing COD on PSN

all of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 might have already been subjected to numerous game-ruining hacks and exploits, but it looks as though the recent surge in PS3 hacks - including the infamous PS3 jailbreak earlier this month that saw a hacker discovering the console's root key - might have a knock-on effect for the Call of Duty franchise, as Activision is considering pulling online support for CoD on the PlayStation Network. With more and more hacks and exploits finding their way into CoD's multiplayer - including the most recent instalment, Black Ops - complaints have been coming thick and fast, prompting Activision to look towards shutting down the PSN CoD servers.


According to a report on GamePolitics, Activision’s senior tester and senior support rep, Dov Carson issued a response to one such complaint regarding Black Ops' multiplayer, stating that the publisher could conceivably shut down all Call of Duty servers on PSN.


“The publishers have the right to shut down the servers for their game at any time as well which, based on the number of reported posts from users, may be a viable solution over the free PSN,” said Carson.
Modern Warfare 2 has also seen the number of problems rise significantly snce the PS3 jailbreak, with Infinity Ward's Rob Bowling assuring fans on its forums that the developer is working on fixing the problems. However, he also noted that only Sony itself can really resolve the ongoing issues and prevent the hacks outright. And that's one very tall order indeed.


“Games rely on the security of the encryption on the platforms they’re played on,” said Bowling. “Therefore, updates to the game through patches will not resolve the problem completely unless the security exploit itself is resolved on the platform.”

Could activion be about to pull the plug on COD on the PSN

Of course the game is also hacked wide open on Xblive and the PC, so i wonder if this final push from all those ps3 players flooding the IW forums has now forced them into actually doing something....possible behind the scene both Activision and Sony are working on something.

 

[JarodRussell]

Nice. Can I now finally enable the PS3 to play games in 1080p if the box says it's made for 1080p?

 

[Haggis and tatties]

^^You are far better sticking with 720p which is usually the native resolution on most games, and the best, if it says 1080p that usually means it supports some form of up scaling.....i can hink of only a few 1080p native games on the PS3....but yeah it can be very confusing for your average gamer to read the box and see 720p, 1080i and 1080p, then find out the latter two are some form of up-scaling and not true native 1080p support.

But i doubt the pirates are going to enable you to upscale your games to 1080p native any time soon. LOL

 

[Lindley]

“Games rely on the security of the encryption on the platforms they’re played on,” said Bowling. “Therefore, updates to the game through patches will not resolve the problem completely unless the security exploit itself is resolved on the platform.”

http://www.ps3trophies.org/news/new...ing-Closing-Call-of-Duty-Servers-On-PSN?.html

Why? Even if there's an encryption layer in the hardware, what's to stop the data being sent over that from getting a software-level encryption first?

 

[Jadzia]

And news just in....Are activision considering closing COD on PSN

i wonder if this final push from all those ps3 players flooding the IW forums has now forced them into actually doing something....possible behind the scene both Activision and Sony are working on something.

At this stage it may just be Activision scare mongering, to see if threatening to close the servers deters people from using exploits.

I expect their next move will be to issue a patch of the game. That will buy them some time, but only until it is cracked again.

They could rewrite their server software to make it secure, which may be time consuming, and they may not have sufficient resources to devote to that task. Any effort may not be worthwhile in the long term, because the game is now a target, and any fix that's made for it is going to be interpreted by crackers as a challenge to rise to.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

“Games rely on the security of the encryption on the platforms they’re played on,” said Bowling. “Therefore, updates to the game through patches will not resolve the problem completely unless the security exploit itself is resolved on the platform.”

http://www.ps3trophies.org/news/new...ing-Closing-Call-of-Duty-Servers-On-PSN?.html

Why? Even if there's an encryption layer in the hardware, what's to stop the data being sent over that from getting a software-level encryption first?

This is just Activision passing the buck to Sony. What they really mean is, "We didn't bother implementing a secure online model because we just assumed the hardware would always remain secure." A stupid, stupid assumption, but what do you expect from Activision?

I wouldn't necessarily blame the devs, either. Any online game developer worth his salt would try to put security on the server side to thwart client-side cheating, but it wouldn't surprise me if higher-ups at Activision put on the brakes and said it was a waste of time since the platform was assumed to be secure.

 

[Kataaran]

^ Totally agree with this. It sounds like Activision were just being lazy. There isn't a platform in existence that's uncrackable so frankly it was only a matter of time. Sony didn't help themselves by removing the Linux option, after all what type of user uses Linux? Technically competent ones that's who.

 

[darthraidr]

so, how is Activision to blame for this? As best i understand, they are a publisher. They pay developers to... wait for it... develop games. They assist at times in providing testers, but so do Sony, MS and Nintendo.

Sony is to blame for doing such a bad job at encryption. The Hackers are to blame for unleashing this blight upon average gamers. this is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Switch]

so, how is Activision to blame for this? As best i understand, they are a publisher. They pay developers to... wait for it... develop games. They assist at times in providing testers, but so do Sony, MS and Nintendo.

Well we can blame the developers directly if you like. Thought we were doing you lot a favour by going for the guys holding the purse strings instead, under the premise that they might have some say about whether or not man-hours are invested in such time-wasting nonsense as developing a non-shit online architecture.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

so, how is Activision to blame for this? As best i understand, they are a publisher. They pay developers to... wait for it... develop games. They assist at times in providing testers, but so do Sony, MS and Nintendo.

Well we can blame the developers directly if you like. Thought we were doing you lot a favour by going for the guys holding the purse strings instead, under the premise that they might have some say about whether or not man-hours are invested in such time-wasting nonsense as developing a non-shit online architecture.

Yeah, we can also blame Infinity Ward, too, if that makes anyone feel better.

 

[Kataaran]

I assumed Activision to be the devs. If they're not then insert dev name of choice because it's still their shite code that's been left wanting after Sonys 'security' let them down.

 

[judge alba]

so just out of interest if the ps3 codes been hacked/cracked could someone actually get into someone elses psn account and possibly use it themselves? if so this could be quite a big problem.