Pine "Apparently Confirmed" as Kirk
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And how is that material to the performance an actor can give? Can you not see how inherently devoid of intelligence the argument of "they just are" is?
All of you who would not be willing to accept such a change in your actors, ask yourselves, are you willing to accept such changes in the asthetics of the Trek universe? Will you accept a noticibly changed Enterprise? Obviously different Klingons and other aliens? Why? Oh WHY then will you not accept such a change in your main actors?
I think the appropriate phrase at this point is: "It's on."
That's not even remotely funny and I find it very offensive.
Starship Polaris said:
I thought about this. The African American actors who came to my mind as suitable for Kirk were all about ten years too old for this movie.
If they were casting older...hell, I'd like to see Morgan Freeman as Bones.
I'd buy that for a dollar. Freeman would kill in the McCoy role.
They're not. They don't exist.
Kirk is from North America; Spock is from another planet; no ethnicity is implied.
Finally. Someone who gets it. Thank you.
And, Morgan Freeman would have made a great Bones.
In your case I think that should be DIC!
I'm simply stating that as this story is taking place within the same continuity it would be ridiculous to change the race of the characters. This does not mean I expect the film to look like it was made in the 60's with clones of the original actors, I expect to see a very modern film with extremely high production values and a good cast.
EDIT: Morgan Freeman may well make a great Bones, I happen to think that Denzel Washington would be superb as the Captain. However, neither actors are suitable for the roles in this version and that it because it is effectively a continuation of existing Trek and not a reimagining.
I actually find it refreshing--as a black man, I need to be reminded never to let my guard down in a culture that is still astoundingly racist.
Thanks, Kelso! :thumbsup:
If Kirk doesn't exist, how is he from North America?
(Just as a fun exercise, imagine what a bunch of hot chicks would think if they were reading this thread over your shoulder. I like to do that from time to time.)
If there were one hot chick here, I would not be posting.
Its a personal policy of mine never to go near a Trek website in the presence of hot chicks! Its something I adhere to religiously!
The wisest post you've ever keyed.
Cripes for a moment there I actually considered getting "The Princess Diaries 2" on DVD. I REALLY want to see whether there is any indication this guy can pull off the role.
From this angle the things you just said are not implied either. They are indeed white in continuity, it's more than implied: it is. Changing ethnic background is on the same level as changing any other part of a person. You could make Spock a human, have Kirk be an alien. No problemo. If you're not using this continuity. Ethnic background is a very important part of who we (and any developed characters) are.
Could you make Sisko Asian? O'Brien Russian? Trip Tucker Mexican? Sure, but you would have to throw out a lot of continuity and essentially start over, which is not what Abrams is doing.
I've actually got a hot chick making me dinner at this very moment, and instead of rushing over to her place, I'm lingering here and posting in this thread.
And when she asks me why I'm so late, I'll have no excuse.
And she'll say, "Cogley again?"
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