Picard vs Sisko

[Photon]

Reversing roles, Picard is appointed commander of DS9 and becomes captain of Defiant and Emissary to the Prophets

Sisko, becomes captain of the flagship and deals w/the everyday problems of starship captain and of course dealing w/Q...

Staying w/in the character that we know from each, who has the easiest time adapting, who the more difficult.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Great topic, Photon. Because both of them would face some things that come naturally to them....and some, not so much.

For example, I don't see Picard as EVER accepting his role as Emissay to the Prophets. I just don't think he would ever even consider the possibility.

And Sisko - he might not be straight-laced enough to command the Flagship. And dealing with Q? Fergetaboutit.

I'll be interested to see the responses.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Here are some of my thoughts, off the top of my head:

*We might not have the Borg since Sisko wouldn't have taken Q's crap after Farpoint.

Which brings me to:

*Q wouldn't have shown up much after Farpoint.

*Jennifer might still be alive, since there possibly may never have been Borg....or at least they would have shown up later rather than sooner.

*Picard would be an entirely different person after dealing with Dukat...and the Dominion War.

*It would have been interesting seeing how Wesley and Jake would have interacted....if they did indeed interact with one another.

*Would Picard and Dax been an item? Or would Picard eventually end up with....Kasidy Yates?

*Sisko is by-the-book, but he's not a hard-ass....and, on the other hand, he is not entirely laid-back. It would be interesting to see how Riker adapted to his commanding officer.

*Picard as Emissary? Would Kai Opaka see that in Picard's pagh?

*Sisko is a thinker, and is very clever. Would he have need for Guinan? Or Troi? (I think for either women, he would have tried to get them to tell him more than just 'surface answers' or riddles, or the obvious when their counsel was needed or requested).

Bringing me to:

*In 'Generations'....I think Sisko would have sat down, had a long chat with Kirk....returned to 'normal' time when they first met Soran and arrested him....then talked to temporal investigations on why that arrest happened.

*Worf wouldn't have been all jumpy in the first season; Sisko would've calmed his ass down.

*Data would have found Sisko fascinating.

*Sisko would have found the dark-skinned Ligonians fascinating.

*Picard would have to 'step it up' since Quark would feel he is too soft in earlier seasons. Of course, Odo would be the same watchful individual.

 

[T'Girl]

During the attack by the Borg at Wolf 359, Jennifer and Jake would have been safe aboard the massive
Enterprise D, Benjamin on the other hand would have been assimilated by the Borg.

The episode Family would have taken place in a restaurant in New Orleans, not a county house in the French
wine country.


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After a total power failure on the station, Captain Picard would lead three Bajorian children (winners of a
"Emissary Day" contest) on a journey through DS9's turbo lift shafts, while singing frere jacques.

Because Picard doesn't go "camping" the galaxy-class USS Odyssey isn't destroyed.

 

[Photon]

For example, I don't see Picard as EVER accepting his role as Emissay to the Prophets. I just don't think he would ever even consider the possibility.

Agree. Picard seemed uncomfy when spiritual matters came up. Sisko was sorta the same early on, but being raised in NOLA he was exposed to it more-IMO.

I don't think Picard would have ever embraced the Emissary's role and the Bajorans he loved so much would have looked at him w/disdain

 

[Bones2]

Sisko's a thug. Give him a Galaxy class for 7 years and there's probably going to be a genocide along the way.

 

[Photon]

Here are some of my thoughts, off the top of my head:

*We might not have the Borg since Sisko wouldn't have taken Q's crap after Farpoint.

Which brings me to:

*Q wouldn't have shown up much after Farpoint.

*Jennifer might still be alive, since there possibly may never have been Borg....or at least they would have shown up later rather than sooner.

*Picard would be an entirely different person after dealing with Dukat...and the Dominion War.

*It would have been interesting seeing how Wesley and Jake would have interacted....if they did indeed interact with one another.

*Would Picard and Dax been an item? Or would Picard eventually end up with....Kasidy Yates?

*Sisko is by-the-book, but he's not a hard-ass....and, on the other hand, he is not entirely laid-back. It would be interesting to see how Riker adapted to his commanding officer.

*Picard as Emissary? Would Kai Opaka see that in Picard's pagh?

*Sisko is a thinker, and is very clever. Would he have need for Guinan? Or Troi? (I think for either women, he would have tried to get them to tell him more than just 'surface answers' or riddles, or the obvious when their counsel was needed or requested).

Bringing me to:

*In 'Generations'....I think Sisko would have sat down, had a long chat with Kirk....returned to 'normal' time when they first met Soran and arrested him....then talked to temporal investigations on why that arrest happened.

*Worf wouldn't have been all jumpy in the first season; Sisko would've calmed his ass down.

*Data would have found Sisko fascinating.

*Sisko would have found the dark-skinned Ligonians fascinating.

*Picard would have to 'step it up' since Quark would feel he is too soft in earlier seasons. Of course, Odo would be the same watchful individual.

Would there be a diplomatic, SF waiting to tell Q....."Fuck You"

 

[indolover]

Picard at DS9 would be too limited. Picard at heart is an explorer, and if anything is good at being autonomous in his thinking. Whilst Sisko is clever and shrewd, Picard IMO has more reason and wisdom, and the ability to sus out situations well. Since DS9 is stationery, and by and large the crew did not explore the Gamma Quadrant, he'd be lost IMO.

I also get the feeling that Picard would pooh-pooh the notion of being Emissary to the Prophets, whilst respecting Bajoran beliefs. He seems to be to be a more rational/empirical person, and not take spiritual beliefs at face value. His diplomacy skills would work well in dealing well with the Cardassians and the Dominion, but I doubt he can essentially run a War effort as Sisko did. I think Picard has more skills in one on one tactical scenarios, not in overall miltary strategy as Sisko had.

Sisko on the Enterprise D/E, well I think he would be lost too lol. I think his strength is not in diplomacy, and would tire in resolving disputes or tackling Romulans as Picard did. Regarding the Borg, he could use his military strategy to plan the battle of Wolf 359, or even as soon as Q-Who occurred, contact Starfleet to tell them how to deal with the Borg when they come.

I think Sisko, whilst shrewd, is not as cerebral as Picard, and wouldn't be as keen to help Data explore the human condition. I think he would have a good relationship with Riker, and with Worf also. Like Dax was in DS9 I think Guinan would be his confidant on the Enterprises.

 

[Photon]

Picard at DS9 would be too limited. Picard at heart is an explorer, and if anything is good at being autonomous in his thinking. Whilst Sisko is clever and shrewd, Picard IMO has more reason and wisdom, and the ability to sus out situations well. Since DS9 is stationery, and by and large the crew did not explore the Gamma Quadrant, he'd be lost IMO.

I also get the feeling that Picard would pooh-pooh the notion of being Emissary to the Prophets, whilst respecting Bajoran beliefs. He seems to be to be a more rational/empirical person, and not take spiritual beliefs at face value. His diplomacy skills would work well in dealing well with the Cardassians and the Dominion, but I doubt he can essentially run a War effort as Sisko did. I think Picard has more skills in one on one tactical scenarios, not in overall miltary strategy as Sisko had.

Sisko on the Enterprise D/E, well I think he would be lost too lol. I think his strength is not in diplomacy, and would tire in resolving disputes or tackling Romulans as Picard did. Regarding the Borg, he could use his military strategy to plan the battle of Wolf 359, or even as soon as Q-Who occurred, contact Starfleet to tell them how to deal with the Borg when they come.

I think Sisko, whilst shrewd, is not as cerebral as Picard, and wouldn't be as keen to help Data explore the human condition. I think he would have a good relationship with Riker, and with Worf also. Like Dax was in DS9 I think Guinan would be his confidant on the Enterprises.

I don't think he'd be lost but it would be tough. Good pt about the Romulans, I think he would get tired of the cloak and dagger of the Rommies and press the fire button. I, for one, think the E-D and esp the E-E could take on a Warbird w/a chance of victory.

The Pegasus incident would be intriguing w/Sisko.

 

[DS9 Gal AZ]

I don't think for a minute Picard would EVER have accepted the role of Emmissary. Sure, Sisko was initially very uncomfortable with it, but eventually he cames to terms with it and even embraced it. I don't think it's that Picard is not spiritual, but he is very Prime Directive and no way would he want to be part of another culture's religious system. ITA w/ the thing about Picard being more of an explorer/diplomat while Sisko was more of a fighter/military man. Picard is definitely more cerebal and philosophical while Sisko is more shrewd and pragmatic. Also you have to take into account that Picard is older than Sisko, he was apparently quite a hothead in his youth but the wisdom of age tempered his responses. Not that Sisko is a hothead per se but he certainly has more of a temper than Picard has, as Q said, he's "much easier to provoke."

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I wonder how long Picard would have allowed Quark's shenanigans. He has a more black and white way of looking at things, and I don't think he would have allowed Quark to stay there for long.

 

[jojolimited]

I think some people are confusing Sisco with "Hawk" from "Spencer for Hire".

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Sisko on the Enterprise D/E, well I think he would be lost too lol. I think his strength is not in diplomacy, and would tire in resolving disputes or tackling Romulans as Picard did.

Boy, you can say that again! Look at how impatient he got with Dukat, who admittedly loved the sound of his own voice, but still....
"If you have something to say to me, then SAY. IT!"

Yeah, Sisko would lose patience very quickly with pretty much anyone he viewed as speaking nonsense or wasting his time.

He had a very low bullshit tolerance threshold...and to be a good diplomat, you really have to have a very HIGH tolerance for bullshit.

Which is exactly why he punched out Q almost immediately, while Picard mucked around with him for 7 full seasons.

 

[indolover]

I think some people are confusing Sisco with "Hawk" from "Spencer for Hire".

Sisko's character was bold and no nonsense. So in a way, similar to Hawk.

 

[jojolimited]

I think some people are confusing Sisco with "Hawk" from "Spencer for Hire".

Sisko's character was bold and no nonsense. So in a way, similar to Hawk.

And Hawk had a much cooler wardrobe

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

HAHAHA! Picard "versus" Sisko, as though Picard has a chance?

(NOTE: For the purposes of this thread, I am talking about TNG-series Picard. Picard in the movies DID show some character growth and as such would be a bit more trustworthy.)

Reversing roles, Picard is appointed commander of DS9 and becomes captain of Defiant and Emissary to the Prophets

There goes the Alpha Quadrant...we're all screwed. Watch Bajor go to hell in a handbasket in the name of "noninterference" and the Federation wind up a subsidiary of the Dominion thanks to a "non-aggression pact."

Sisko, becomes captain of the flagship and deals w/the everyday problems of starship captain and of course dealing w/Q...

Sisko would kick ass and take names. But first, he'd get those kids OFF the ship, because you can bet that's not a mistake he'll repeat twice.

Come to think of it, I actually think Picard may be an example of the Dilbert Principle in action.

 

[Arpy]

Sisko is not Hawk - hair aside. If he went firing at Romulans left and right he'd either get the Enterprise destroyed or the Federation in a war he, having to deal with it in-universe unlike us watching for fun, would regret. He's not the diplomat Picard is, but he's a Stafleet captain - he'd get his nose bloodied at first but adapt. And if he didn't Necheyev would have his ass.

Picard would not enjoy his role as Emissary, but he'd adapt as well. I don't know how Sisko felt about being a religious figure, but there was nothing supernatural in it. The wormhole aliens manipulated people and the time-line. Picard would understand that and do what he needed to do to stop the pah-wraiths. He'd take a less mystical approach in his with people, but I don't think the end-result would be all that different. Though I'm sure Winn would love him.

Who knows what Sisko would have been like with Jennifer on the Enterprise, never knowing the pain of losing her. What would Picard have been like if he lost, say, Crusher and had to raise Wesley on his own? What would a boy with Wesley's talents get into on DS9? OMG...what if the Prophets used him to alter events? They could have sent Choirs of Travelers to protect him in their keeping.

 

[Anwar]

Sisko himself didn't like being the Emissary and tried to get out of it, until "Accession" where that Bajoran Poet dude from the past showed up and took the title from him.

Once he saw what the power of the Emissary could be perverted into by someone else, he realized he had to just accept it or things would go out of control for Bajor.

So Picard similarly would realize that for the sake of order he'd have to be the Emissary, though he'd be a tad less spiritual in his "duties".

 

[Photon]

Sisko is not Hawk - hair aside. If he went firing at Romulans left and right he'd either get the Enterprise destroyed or the Federation in a war he, having to deal with it in-universe unlike us watching for fun, would regret. He's not the diplomat Picard is, but he's a Stafleet captain - he'd get his nose bloodied at first but adapt. And if he didn't Necheyev would have his ass.

Picard would not enjoy his role as Emissary, but he'd adapt as well. I don't know how Sisko felt about being a religious figure, but there was nothing supernatural in it. The wormhole aliens manipulated people and the time-line. Picard would understand that and do what he needed to do to stop the pah-wraiths. He'd take a less mystical approach in his with people, but I don't think the end-result would be all that different. Though I'm sure Winn would love him.

Who knows what Sisko would have been like with Jennifer on the Enterprise, never knowing the pain of losing her. What would Picard have been like if he lost, say, Crusher and had to raise Wesley on his own? What would a boy with Wesley's talents get into on DS9? OMG...what if the Prophets used him to alter events? They could have sent Choirs of Travelers to protect him in their keeping.

Young Nog and The Boy.....talking about getting introduced to the darker side.

 

[Cepstrum]

I doubt Picard would've remained on the station during the Circle siege. He probably would've willingly turned it over to the Bajorans. No more SF on DS9. It'd be quite different, IMO.