Picard On Voyager in Place of KJ

[Finn]

Nor did Voyager have a superior science officer, (maybe they were killed by the caretaker).

If Voyager had someone like Mr. Spock, he would have created short cuts to get the array ready to send them back sooner, they would have been back to the alpha quad at the end of the pilot.

Voyager really didn't need one. Janeway herself was on the science track before switching to command so she kinda fulfilled both roles, though essentially Seven filled most of the role later. TNG didn't really have one either, the closest we got was Beverly.

While they didn't have an official "Chief Senior Officer" on the senior staff, there was probably someone aboard who was responsible for all of those working in the science labs.

 

[Tomalak]

The operations officer always seemed to be the science officer, like Data. Harry Kim can't have been the senior officer, he was fresh out of the academy. Presumably his superior was killed too - maybe one of those West Wing lieutenant commanders on the casualty list?

 

[JB2005]

It always seemed to me that Voyager's Science Dept wasn't staffed when it left DS9 - why would it need to be, Janeway had a background in the sciences and they were going after Tuvok, not on a Deep Space Exploration assignment...

It seems to me that the writers err'd in not having a chief science officer on the crew - after all, you're exploring the unknown and you don't have a "Spock" on the bridge...

 

[Anwar]

TNG didn't have a Chief Science Officer either, they had Data as the "Operations Officer".

VOY's chief scientist was Janeway, so they merged the character types together.

It's like how in Farscape, Crichton was an "Action Scientist" (astrophysicist turned space adventurer).

 

[Tomalak]

TNG didn't have a Chief Science Officer either, they had Data as the "Operations Officer".

I'm sure I read that Data was always supposed to be science officer, but when the golden make-up turned out to look awful with the blue costume, they made up the new job title and put him in gold instead. He was still effectively the science officer.

 

[JB2005]

Yeah I've heard that as well

 

[Anwar]

Yes, that was the reason. In VOY Kim nominally is the Science Officer since he's also supposed to be Operations, but Janeway herself is closer to it.

 

[MrLethalWeapon]

Why not negotiate with the Kazon? Have the Kazon hold off until Voyager has activated the program that will send them home, then double cross the Kazon, set a timer and blow the thing up?

I remember Captain Janeway attempting something like that only to receive a negative from the Kazon commander; words to the effect of 'we will not allow someone with your level of technology to access that array.'

 

[jpch]

as it has been stated Janeway had a degree in quantum mechanics,in addition Seven of Nine took the role of science officer at the beginning of season 4,and on many occasions Kim and Torres were both science officer material...

Anyway back to Picard,since he has a different approach to situations then Janeway(less aggressive),and was seen as a skilled diplomat in TNG he would have attempted to negotiate with the kazon or something but i would imagine the end result as the same.

 

[Sandoval]

I can't see that Janeway had many options left - clearly Voyager and the Maquis raider were getting beaten up by the Kazon and despite this whole 'negotiate with them' idea Jabin was in no mood for talking.

The Kazon wanted the Array, Janeway wouldn't allow that - what is there to negotiate? What do you use as a bargaining chip to get everyone 'round the negotiating table to kill some?

The fact is Voyager's weapons array had been hit and the ship was "in big trouble". After the kamikaze run they were down one Maquis raider and all aboard a ship with problems shooting its weapons. Kazon reinforcements were on their way.

Either you let them have the Array or you blow it up.

Besides even with Picard, Data, Geordi and whoever Voyager would still have ended up stranded - that is the only outcome given that the premise of the series is that the ship gets stranded.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Meh, Kirk would have only done one thing different.

After blowing the array he would have looked at a map and been home in a few days.

Of course he alos has a chief engineer who actually reads the thing telling them what warp speed there going so they know they are REALLY going at warp 9.

 

[Anwar]

Also, in TOS Warp Speed was really "Plot Speed" and there was no chance of ever getting stranded thanks to that.

 

[T'Girl]

Also, in TOS Warp Speed was really "Plot Speed" and there was no chance of ever getting stranded thanks to that.

Or it was Janeway, and not Kirk/Picard/Sisko who experienced "plot speed."

When did Picard ever say it took eight years to cross the Federation ... the one he said was eight thousand light years wide?

 

[Sokath]

Picard wouldn't beat the Borg because he was a tea-drinker.
Janeway said it herself, it's thanks to coffee that she beat the Borg.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Picard wouldn't beat the Borg because he was a tea-drinker.
Janeway said it herself, it's thanks to coffee that she beat the Borg.

:: nods approvingly ::