Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

[TheMadCloner]

They're bringing back Hugh from "Descent". It would be *really* weird if Lore wasn't brought up at that point. Plus, they've already made a big deal out of requiring a "pair" of minds to work whatever positronic magic required for artificial intelligence. Maybe that's the secret: Lore and Data were constructed simultaneous using twin-tech. Not sure what relevance that would have on the story though.

I'm also not sure if scenery-chewing Spiner-as-Lore gels with the grounded tone they've set. That's the one strike against that idea.

Considering Lore ended up being the bizarro version of Data, maybe Soji is the bizarro version of Dahj? Although based on her short intro at the end of the episode, it doesn't seem that way. If anything she seems even nicer than Dahj.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Rating: Excellent.

This is a dramatic improvement over any episode of DISCO, including "If Memory Serves," my favorite.

I had minor issues, but nothing that got my panties in a twist. All in all, I was happy to find my self enjoying Star Trek again. I hope the payoff is as good as the setup, but from the way it begins it seems that there is something worth treating here in this series. "The Offspring" is one of the top episodes of TNG, in every way superior to "The Measure Of A Man" IMO, and if any TNG episodes deserves follow-up, it is that one.

Will Maddox be the big bad? He might, or he might end up being anything besides villain, from antihero, to tragic figure, to victim, to visionary hero.

The cube cliffhanger was great. Bring on Seven.

 

[TheMadCloner]

It has a 93/81 on RT right now. I suspect the audience number will actually go up as more people see it. It has several advantages over DISCO, including:

- better acting as a whole
- no controversial "retconning" of technology and/or canon
- no real unintentionally unlikeable characters (so far), whereas DISCO had several polarizing ones right off the bat
- a more traditionally Trek storyline/theme

I think this will go a long way to winning over the traditional segment of Trek fans, which DISCO has had some trouble doing.

 

[Crewman6]

Just remember...Data's head is 475 years older than the rest of him and the aging starts to make at least a little more sense.

In my headcanon, Data swapped out his rusty old head for Lore's after "Descent 2."

 

[thribs]

No 4K UHD version on Amazon. That’s a shame.

 

[Crewman6]

I think red matter has joined tri-lithium warheads and proto-matter Genesis warheads in the strangely forgotten, but immensely powerful, weapons tech list. Combined with sending the warheads thru interstellar beaming, you could wipe out enemies from light years away.

I'm waiting for soliton waves to make a comeback! Soliton generators should be standard equipment on every starship by now!

 

[Crewman6]

But Data shut Lore down permanently. Though if Lore's body still exists why didn't they just erase his programming and upload Data into him?

His body was yes, he may have had a backup plan beyond B4 as he must have known that B4's positronic matrix was not advanced enough and came up with an alternative.

It's impossible to create a "back up" of Data because there's nothing to store that backup in. Only data's positronic brain can properly hold the deep essence of memories. Data tried with B4, but as "Remembrance" tells us, B4 didn't work properly.

You could have only used Lore if data scrubbed Lore's memory and deliberately made a back-up using Lore. But since he never did, it's too late.

 

[Paul Weaver]

In Picard’s vault there were various ships including a D and the stargazer. There was also a shuttle like ship - anyone know what it was?

 

[thribs]

In Picard’s vault there were various ships including a D and the stargazer. There was also a shuttle like ship - anyone know what it was?

Captain’s Yacht from Insurrection

 

[Crewman6]

In Picard’s vault there were various ships including a D and the stargazer. There was also a shuttle like ship - anyone know what it was?

Captain's yacht, I think...

 

[Guy Gardener]

Those people are insane. Mallrats is a masterpiece of nerd cinema and was several years ahead of its time

which is true.

wait. are you comparing Mallrats with the hot mess that was ENT? Alright, duel at sundown it is.

Mallrats is a prequel to Clerks.

Julie Dyer was supposed to be the suiteress on the Mallrats dating game show, but they went to her funeral in Clerks, and the comic Book Clerks the missing Scene.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

It was great seeing three different kinds of Romulans in this episode: TOS and TOS Movie-style, TNG-style and J.J.-style. This is how they should treat the Klingons in DSC. Show us one of every kind from every era of the franchise.

I like that the V ridges were much more subdued with Picard's chef than they were in the Berman era. And no bloody bowl cut wigs.

 

[Gepard]

End of season we might find that Data's alive and well and hiding in plain sight.

This is what I think ends up happening.

If that's the direction they go, it's probably Data's consciousness inside Picard somehow. The "dreams" aren't anything of the sort, and he's got a chip in his brain a la Baltar from nuBSG (before Moore et al decided on the angel thing).

Maybe Data's hanging out inside whatever's left of the Borg implants in his body? I dunno, that's technobabbly enough to work for Star Trek.

 

[Discofan]

Is she supposed to look like Lal?

 

[jaime]

The beauty of having him working at a shipyard is plenty of ships around to escape. My prediction they go all Michael Bay for one episode were we see Geordi seeing the explosions yell out "Oh Shit" and runs through the base as people all around him are screaming and yelling and afraid as walls are falling down and everything and he soon find himself outrunning a fire ball. He gets to the transporter room pushes a button and transports aboard a ship. He tries to start it up as he looks outside the window and see the base he was on explode. He gets it started just in time and pulls a lever and says something like 'I knew I should have stayed on the Enterprise" before the ship speeds off outrunning yet another fireball.


Jason

Dont forget the roll under a slow moving blast partition.

 

[Discofan]

Dont forget the roll under a slow moving blast partition.

They even did that one on Titanic.

 

[The Rock]

Any chance we will see William Shatner in the show via a holorecording (recorded sometime between Star Trek VI and Generations)? They could use de-aging CGI for Shatner. It doesn't even have to be a full-sized hologram. A miniature hologram would be fine. I just really wanna see Shatner as Kirk for one last time.

 

[jaime]

The CIA wasn't created by Alexander Hamilton as an organization that exists in parallel with but without connection to the US government, with the express purpose of violating the Constitution whenever necessary for the survival of the country.

And yet....

I kid.

 

[thribs]

I doubt it but I would like to know why Picard didn’t listen to him when he said never let them promote you.

 

[Discofan]

Any chance we will see William Shatner in the show via a holorecording (recorded sometime between Star Trek VI and Generations)? They could use de-aging CGI for Shatner. It doesn't even have to be a full-sized hologram. A miniature hologram would be fine. I just really wanna see Shatner as Kirk for one last time.

I don't know. De-aging CGI still looks very fake to me.