• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

PIC S3 Ships & Tech

So, more on topic, I agree with @Dukhat that mass produced warships were logical, and so I had no issue with the fleet at the end of Season 1.
my issue with that fleet (and the romulan one) was with the ludicrous size it had…Just to protect/destroy a tiny colony they sent hundreds of ships while fighting the Borg we had 40? Them being nearly identical wasn’t the best but was understandable given the real world situation.
 
my issue with that fleet (and the romulan one) was with the ludicrous size it had…Just to protect/destroy a tiny colony they sent hundreds of ships while fighting the Borg we had 40? Them being nearly identical wasn’t the best but was understandable given the real world situation.
The Romulan I didn't like, because it was ridiculous, as you say.

The Starfleet one I actually liked just fine because it was an appropriate force projection after suffering the loss they did.
 
Daystrom looks like Jupiter station with additional stuff

R3yJn4S.png


CDf7V8n.png


yJ1ClIg.png


YOYBNsg.png


Shields are displayed like in WoK

MEMuMGc.png


JXMkHIO.png
 
Apparently Utopia Planitia was the largest and suffered the biggest loss in the attack, resulting in reworking all possible parts and configurations.

Stands to reason to my mind.
Think of our IRL Logistics Shortages due to COVID that affected the Global Supply Chain.

Yeah, some stuff still got made, but there are major product shortages and stalls because of certain Factories going down.
 
Wondering how many Y-class freighters were built back in the day, how many cargo modules were built for use with them, how many other models of freighter were those modules were designed to be compatible with...
 
They moved like DOTs to me... long vectored movement with no flailing limbs, moving while phasering (what?), and all the clickey robotic sound effects. Of course we were really far away, but perhaps they left it to a bit of interpretation depending on whether or not you believe DOTs made sense in the 2250s in the first place. Or holographic communicators. Or big front windows.

Mark
 
Last edited:
Thought of them as DOTS, if Disco had them in the 23rd century, 150 years latter, yeah, there still a thing. Maybe some people out there to direct them or help? maybe.

Do like the Intrepid, wish we had more views of her, saw slightly behind, on top, but nothing below.. owell. Hope they release an ortho of it like the Stargazer and Titan A

I like Bill's stuff, but just like with John Eaves, I want ALOT of designers, not just like 1 per season, like it seems its only Bill's stuff ( so far) this season on new designs, which is good because its not Eaves again. But more designs by different designers!

Doesn't have a bridge window either.. Suddenly, when you need interference in the view screen, ala TWOK.. bridge windows disappear.. :shifty:
 
Last edited:
My 305 Notes:

- So are we saying that Raffi's mobile emitter can handle hardlight like the EMH? It's similarly-shaped but not the same as the "original". Regardless you'd think, especially for an intel op, that you'd place it on the inside of the holographic clothing so it wouldn't be so easily hit. You'd think SOMEONE would've made that recommendation by now.

- By the time the Dominion War started, DS9 had largely abandoned the notion of blood screenings, but you could argue it was more of a moral decision instead of a practical one (they ain't gonna scare us no more, etc.), plus of course the writers not wanting to have it as part of standard ops. Papa Sisko once suggested that a Changeling could store blood inside itself and let it out on cue as needed, and even Changeling Bashir tried the tactic (arguably as a fake-out tactic). Here we see that they were still effective or at least judged to be so by Starfleet, between this and some sort of imaging chamber they use when they first report aboard (not related to Quantum Leap, I expect).

- Krinn uses a DS9-era Ferengi hand phaser, the one that was originally made from molds of old Robotech toys. His gang uses Romulan rifles from S1 of this show. Elsewhere we see a Starfleet FC-era rifle (or at least Beverly's pump-action variant) being brandished openly on the streets. Maybe there are consumer-edition weapons, like the AR-15? Raffi's Starfleet-issue rifle is also from the first season, and comes with an English-language scope interface to boot.

- Someone left the holodeck on from last week? And at Guinan's? Power is clearly not an issue anymore.

- There's no shortage of examples of holodeck access points hidden inside active programs (most recently on LDS), and here we have a screen conveniently hidden behind the bar. Did Picard know this from last week, or did he know where it was from previous visits to the program elsewhere? Or did Guinan actually have a screen down there in the real version?

- Intrepid shuttle is like the Saavik model we saw earlier this year (and from 201, maybe?) However this one has different chairs, and fewer of them.

- At one point the Intrepid weapons power up, and you can even see the end tips of the upper phaser strips glow up as though she was about to fire from them in the TNG-era way, even though we've never seen any ship need to hold power at that point - maybe it was just an intimidation tactic. In any case, in the next shot the phaser strips are no longer powered and she instead fires really slow torpedoes.

Mark
 
Papa Sisko once suggested that a Changeling could store blood inside itself and let it out on cue as needed, and even Changeling Bashir tried the tactic (arguably as a fake-out tactic). Here we see that they were still effective or at least judged to be so by Starfleet, between this and some sort of imaging chamber they use when they first report aboard (not related to Quantum Leap, I expect).

Note we never did see a Changeling actually manage this blood storage trick, it was all just paranoia. I believe in the Bashir scene you mention, he was the one doing the blood screening and was in constant contact with the blood drawing device. My assumption was that it was all simply part of him. Odo could pretend to drink after all, just the liquid had to stay in physical contact with the cup and didn't turn back into Changeling goop.

You'd assume the Martok Changeling might have been subject to Klingon blood screenings, but since their version simply involved cutting your hand with a blade, perhaps he found a creative way to simulate this, like the blood droplets staying in touch with his skin while he bled.
 
Yeah, I didn’t include the Martok changeling in my list, and even that was proven retroactively as no one (writers included) knew he wasn’t really Martok at the time. In any case his example proved that the Changelings had little to worry about blood screenings at any time - if anything the whole Federation response was make-work to keep people happy or feeling safe, kinda like airport security.

I mean HAVE blood screenings ever successfully detected a Changeling? The only two examples I can think of were fakes (Bashir’s first replacement and Sisko on Earth).

Mark
 
Last edited:
Note we never did see a Changeling actually manage this blood storage trick, it was all just paranoia. I believe in the Bashir scene you mention, he was the one doing the blood screening and was in constant contact with the blood drawing device. My assumption was that it was all simply part of him. Odo could pretend to drink after all, just the liquid had to stay in physical contact with the cup and didn't turn back into Changeling goop.

You'd assume the Martok Changeling might have been subject to Klingon blood screenings, but since their version simply involved cutting your hand with a blade, perhaps he found a creative way to simulate this, like the blood droplets staying in touch with his skin while he bled.
The drops dripped onto a bright white table, IIRC
 
- At one point the Intrepid weapons power up, and you can even see the end tips of the upper phaser strips glow up as though she was about to fire from them in the TNG-era way, even though we've never seen any ship need to hold power at that point - maybe it was just an intimidation tactic. In any case, in the next shot the phaser strips are no longer powered and she instead fires really slow torpedoes.

Imagine if phasers were used to attack the Shrike instead of torpedoes. Doubtful the Shrike would've had time to deploy their portal tech before getting hit.

On the same vein, the Titan's nacelles would've been hit before she got to warp away from the Intrepid...
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top