Piano trio music from "Allegiance" & Ron Jones

[euphorik]

does anybody know what the actual track is that's playing in the background when the Picard replica is trying to seduce Beverly in "Allegiance" -?? That's really great music - very much in the minimalist Bill Evans-type style, I am just kinda curious who's actually playing...this was a Ron Jones-scored episode, so I am guessing that this is probably Jones himself, with some other players....just wondering though if anyone had more solid info on this.

By the way, Berman and whoever else really screwed up firing Ron Jones; that guy wrote some of the most memorable Trek scores ever. That was one of the very first nails in the TNG coffin, as far as I am concerned, replacing Ron Jones with the generic, bland Jay Chattaway. I hated his "Tin Man" score...and everything else he ever did is/was just like background muzak.

 

[Tomalak]

Ron Jones's sacking was one of the worst decisions Berman ever made. His music had a cinematic quality that Jay Chattaway and Dennis McCarthy could never equal. He made even the most boring, pedestrian episodes (of which the first two seasons have a number) seem more interesting. Evolution, Best of Both Worlds, The Defector, The Drumhead, The Offspring and Brothers are some that stick in the mind.

"Too noticeable" my arse. You don't get best music Emmys or Oscars by being anomymous.

But what the fuck is this on the Wiki entry? Private joke?

"A brief history of Ron Jones. As a junior he went to West Linn High School and was expecting to have a wonderful time. He even found a lucky penny. But as he bent over to get the penny a freshman came up from behind him and stabbed him through his jeans and into his asshole. The freshmen then proceeded to rape the stab wound/asshole. Later Ron Jones would go to senior prom with the boy who raped him. When Ron asked him to the prom the boy responded "sure, as long as that sweet ass of yours is coming along." Later after prom Ron Jones went to have sex with the boy and as he started to take his jeans off, the boy said, "NO! Leave the jeans on." But don't worry because Ron Jones would prevail and come back to rub it in the faces of West Linn film students."

 

[euphorik]

Tomalak said:
But what the fuck is this on the Wiki entry? Private joke?

...or yet another reason not to use wikipedia?

 

[Christopher]

euphorik said:
By the way, Berman and whoever else really screwed up firing Ron Jones; that guy wrote some of the most memorable Trek scores ever. That was one of the very first nails in the TNG coffin, as far as I am concerned, replacing Ron Jones with the generic, bland Jay Chattaway. I hated his "Tin Man" score...and everything else he ever did is/was just like background muzak.

It's odd you should say that, because his "Tin Man" score was very unlike his usual Trek work, much richer and more distinctive. That's because it was his first episode and he hadn't adapted to the "house style" yet.

You have to understand that the composers had to write in the style that the producers required of them. It was the producers who pressured them to do repetitive atmospherics, so don't blame the composers for that. They've all shown they're capable of excellent work when freed from the strictures they were under on TNG, DS9 and VGR. (The music on ENT was generally much richer, even though most of it was from the same composers.) The difference is that Ron Jones wouldn't conform to those demands to limit his work. It's not that he was more capable than they were, just more uncompromising.

 

[Tomalak]

There was some excellent work in the later series, such as The Inner Light, and we know from Generations that McCarthy can write superb music. Regardless of whether he was right or not, Ron Jones' music is consistently better.

 

[Praetorian]

C'mon people, stop saying the Inner Light had "excellent work". It was the same boring crap that Chattaway was doing back then (probably his most boring phase, he would make some nice scores mostly in the later seasons of DS9 and VOY).
Picard playing the flute for 30 seconds, is nice, but certanly not enough and certanly not part of the soundtrack.
I actually had heard the "Inner Light Suite" before, and I was very disapointed that it wasn't part of the episode itself.

Anyway, I think that Ron Jones was the best composer in Star Trek. Eventhough the others were restrained, you can compare their earlier scores, when they were not. First TNG Season (or even up to the Third Season) McCarthy sounds great, but doesn't reach Jones' level. The same with Chattaway in "Tin Man" or even "Remember Me" I guess.

I could never understand the rationale behind "music that one shouldn't notice". What the hell is it purpose then? Better not use music at all then. In the First Season the music might have been a little wild (though not for me) but I think for example the Third Season had a very balanced composing.

Oh well...

 

[tharpdevenport]

That's a disguting thing that thankfully someone deleted from Wiki.


Cute video here from that Family Guy scene described in the Wiki entry.