Physics is Just Made Up

[John Picard]

Read the comments after this story about a particle accelerator.

You'll have to dig a little, but the ignorance of the person claiming that "everything about Physics is already known" just makes one shake his head in wonder.

 

[MIB]

haha, really now? I, for one, am dying to hear his explanation for gravity then. I could use the info to build one of those racers from Wipeout

 

[M'Sharak]

John_Picard said:
Read the comments after this story about a particle accelerator.

You'll have to dig a little, but the ignorance of the person claiming that "everything about Physics is already known" just makes one shake his head in wonder.

I had to bail out because my head was hurting long before I could get to that little jewel.

 

[John Picard]

Some of the comments that follow most articles in USA Today are always hysterical. I can't believe some people are so ignorant, but then again, I can.

 

[USS KG5]

MIB said:
haha, really now? I, for one, am dying to hear his explanation for gravity then. I could use the info to build one of those racers from Wipeout

I'd rather fly like the bloke from Heroes personally...

 

[cultcross]

John_Picard said:
"everything about Physics is already known"

Someone says this every generation. I remember reading that a young scientist in the late 1800s was advised not to go into physics, as everything major had already been discovered. What was left was just 'dotting some i's and crossing some t's'. The young scientist was Erwin Schrödinger.

 

[Argus Skyhawk]

It looks to me as though the original posts by someone with the handle "Yadgyu" have disappeared, but fortunately other posters have quoted him for our enjoyment. I hope it is okay if I post some of those quotes here so people don't have to dig too much for them:

You have been brainwashed.

If you believe in squarks, photinos, selectrons, and neutralinos, you must also believe in dragons, unicorns, giants, sorcerers, and fairy godmothers. Physics is the biggest sham invented. All of the physics that humans can ever know about is already known. These dudes are just wasting money building multi-million dollar machines that make noises and blow hot air. It's time for Americans to expose the sleazy world of science for what it really is.

There is no way I am going to let some geek tell me that "Sparticles are predicted by supersymmetry theory, which posits that for every particle we know of, there is a sister particle that we have not yet discovered." That makes no sense! If it is not discovered, how can it exist? I mean, come on. These people cannot prove that these things exist by any means other than creating theories with indecipherable calculus equations to back it up. I guess if you know enough math and science, you can invent any crazy theory and people are supposed to believe it.

d(Thingamajig)/dx^2 = Something that cannot be seen or observed or recorded but exists anyway!
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Quantum mechanics is an invention of the human mind. There is no way to prove that quantum mechanics is real. They try to say that thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, and kinetics can be used to measure properties of quantum mechanics. But the problem is that these three branches of science can be proven in a lab; quantum mechanics cannot! Quantum mechanics is all theory. If you cannot prove your theory in the real world, it is just a figment of one's imagination.

Einstein, Planck, and many other rogues have successfully bamboozled clueless and curious minds for decades. These guys just sat around thinking of things that they never saw. They came up with a series of mathematical calculations and equations to prove things. But they never proved anything because they never actually performed any experiments. Today's scientists have never performed any experiments using quantum mechanics. Tomorrow's scientists will just invent new math formulas to fool others into thinking they were geniuses.

What a shame!

 

[ancient]

Y'Know what? He's right. The Atomic Bomb doesn't exist. It was all in Eienstein's head. What a crock.

This is a guy who picked up a physics book, got stuck on the meaning of the word 'sinusoidal' and just decided it must all be bunk since he couldn't understand it.

 

[Manticore]

I love how he includes Einstein as one of the ones who've 'bamboozled' us, considering how much he hated quantum mechanics.

 

[shipfisher]

The aspect of physics that would indeed be "made up" would be any claim, with absolute certainty, that a theory extant today represented an exact model of reality, instead of a "best fit" waiting to be superceeded.

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

Argus Skyhawk said:

d(Thingamajig)/dx^2 = Something that cannot be seen or observed or recorded but exists anyway!

I defy anyone to come up with a useful application for E=MC^2

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Sic transit gloria mundi.

Ah well, maybe medieval times weren't that bad -- it looks like we'll be living in them again soon if memes like this propagate.

 

[Tobin_Dax]

The Squire of Gothos said:
I defy anyone to come up with a useful application for E=MC^2

Sunlight. The energy we get from the sun is converted mass.

 

[The Squire of Gothos]

Cool, before Einstein there was no daytime

 

[M'Sharak]

Does that mean Einstein takes a hit for Daylight Savings Time, too?

 

[TerriO]

The Squire of Gothos said:
Cool, before Einstein there was no daytime

So have we just postulated that Einstein is in fact God?

 

[John Picard]

TerriO said:

The Squire of Gothos said:
Cool, before Einstein there was no daytime

So have we just postulated that Einstein is in fact God?

We only know him as The Supreme Being

 

[Yadgyu]

Hey, I'm not crazy!

It is not me who does not understand. Nobody understands!

Scientists are unable to prove that quantum mechanics works because they do not understand it. They have made some mathematical calculations that may support what they believe, but they have no evidence. You do know that data can be manipulated to prove a hypothesis true, right?

I like the example of buoyancy and density you gave in the "How can this be real science" post, Tardis. You used simple techniques to demonstrate your point. A third grader can reproduce the experiment you described. But these sub-atomic theories and experiments cannot be reproduced by other scientists. The discoveries cannot even be reproduced by the scientists who come up with the original hypothesis! Using math to describe a phenomena is not bad, but you have to be able to physically reproduce the phenomena in the real world. This is where quantum mechanics fails. Just observe the uncertainty principle. Scientists are not able to measure these things and therefore have been lying for decades.

 

[TerriO]

Welcome to the discussion, Yadgyu.

Let's take a step back and take a breath before responding, please, everyone. I'm sure the resident physics gurus around here can address Yadgyu's comments more than adequately.

 

[Turbo]

Re: Hey, I'm not crazy!

Yadgyu said:
It is not me who does not understand. Nobody understands!

Scientists are unable to prove that quantum mechanics works because they do not understand it. They have made some mathematical calculations that may support what they believe, but they have no evidence. You do know that data can be manipulated to prove a hypothesis true, right?

I like the example of buoyancy and density you gave in the "How can this be real science" post, Tardis. You used simple techniques to demonstrate your point. A third grader can reproduce the experiment you described. But these sub-atomic theories and experiments cannot be reproduced by other scientists. The discoveries cannot even be reproduced by the scientists who come up with the original hypothesis! Using math to describe a phenomena is not bad, but you have to be able to physically reproduce the phenomena in the real world. This is where quantum mechanics fails. Just observe the uncertainty principle. Scientists are not able to measure these things and therefore have been lying for decades.

Firstly, let me point out why quantum mechanics is necessary - Newtonian physics (gravity, thermodynamics, relativity) doesn't apply to the atomic and subatomic levels of structure, because otherwise electrons would collide with nuclei. Instead, they somehow maintain an orbit around the nucleus. This is something that has been proven time and again in laboratories.

You pointed out the uncertainty principle. You're missing the fact that the uncertainty principle is what makes quantum mechanics work. You cannot precisely measure the position and the momentum of a particle at the same time. But this is not an observer effect - it is an effect caused by the particle's interaction with its environment. Particles with constant position and momentum simply do not exist in quantum mechanics.

And yet, the theories of quantum mechanics have been repeatedly confirmed through experimentation throughout the 20th and 21st centuries. Bell's Inequality can be proven with experimentation fairly easily.