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Photon Torpedo ???

James Wright

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What was the maximum speed of a photon torpedo in TOS, had the speed increased by the time of TNG?
Why isn't there anything like countermeasures against photon torpedoes?
What's with the shape of photon torpedoes?

JDW
 
Well, the article about photon torpedoes at Memory Alpha was interesting but, it didn't explain anything about countermeasures against photon torpedoes or why photon torpedoes don't look like traditional torpedoes?

JDW
 
Why don't they look like "traditional" torpedoes? Umm... because they fly through space using a sustained warp field, not through the water using a screw. As for counter-measures, we've never seen any used. Probably the only way to do it is to shoot them down or absorb the explosion with a shield.

The only thing we know about a torpedo's top speed is that it is 75% greater than the speed of the ship launching it. If it is fired at warp, it will continue at warp, but if fired at impulse it cannot break the light barrier on its own.
 
Would the Enterprise-D firing phasers at the Ferengi missiles in "The Price" count?

Also, Star Trek: Armada has the Corbomite Reflector and Point Defense Phasers.
 
What is the maximum weight of a photon torpedo compared to a traditional torpedo?

JDW
According to the Memory Alpha article, one type of photon torpedo has a dry (unfueled) mass of 247.5 kilograms. The torpedo can also hold 1.5 kilograms each of matter and antimatter.

The U.S. Navy's Mk. 48 ADCAP torpedo has a mass of 1,676 kilograms.
 
Why isn't there anything like countermeasures against photon torpedoes?
JDW

Well...a retrograde by anyone being fired on would be a good start. Staying outside of range 8.

Next maybe...shields....shield reinforcement. General Reinforcement.
 
Anything that will reflect or absorb gamma rays would be good, as that is where the photon torpedo's destructive power lies.
 
Well, the article about photon torpedoes at Memory Alpha was interesting but, it didn't explain anything about countermeasures against photon torpedoes or why photon torpedoes don't look like traditional torpedoes?

JDW

Well, considering the first time we ever actually SAW a photon torpedo "cannister" (casing) was when it was used as a coffin for Spock... I believe that's probably your answer as to why they look the way they do. :)

Cheers,
-CM-
 
Actually, we saw one being loaded into the tubes for firing against the Reliant about 20 minutes before that. ;)
 
It's not strictly the same, but speaking in terms of the timeline, the "photonic" torpedoes used on Enterprise are also curiously the same length as a dead body... how odd :p Some strange foresight by Starfleet maybe? ;)
 
And, retroactively, we could argue that the ovoid shape sliding into the ovoid hole in the display graphics of Chekov's torpedo-firing console in ST:TMP was a graphic representation of the torpedo casing.

I mean, the makers of ST:TMP probably intended this to be some sort of an aiming crosshairs or something. But in retrospect, it can just as well be interpreted as a graphic display of the loading prodecure, as the centerpiece of the graphic is a good match for the torpedo casing we later see in ST2:TWoK.

The only thing we know about a torpedo's top speed is that it is 75% greater than the speed of the ship launching it.

That's not an onscreen fact, tho, just backstage speculation.

And we know that probes launched from the torpedo tubes of a starship puttering about at impulse speed can span significant interstellar distances, suggesting the probes have the ability to independently accelerate to at least medium warp. It would be odd if the photon torpedoes would lack this capability. At least there should exist a long range variant of the torpedo that would be capable of such acceleration.

It's probably not a big feat at all to accelerate a small object like a torpedo to very high warp. They did it with K'Ehleyr's traveling coffin in "The Emissary", apparently without the help of a starship because otherwise K'Ehleyr would have been traveling aboard said starship. We might infer that the torpedo launchers of a starbase (say, like those on DS9) can spit out torpedoes so that they ultimately attain speeds up to warp 9 and can travel interstellar distances.

I'd like to think that torpedoes as such are fairly standardized, and most of them indeed look like that coffin prop that persists from the TOS movies to the DS9 and VOY episodes. However, it is probably possible to clip on a "booster" to enable the sort of speeds and ranges we saw with K'Ehleyr's ride. And it might be possible to fire "half-rounds", things half the length of the standard prop. Just because we don't see such things explicitly doesn't mean much, since we very seldom get to see into the innards of a torpedo launcher.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Actually, we saw one being loaded into the tubes for firing against the Reliant about 20 minutes before that. ;)
And the TUC torpedo Spock and McCoy configured to track Chang's BoP engine plasma emissions.
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