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Phase II story arcs used for most of the Kirk and gang movies?

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I know The Motion Picture has a few things borrowed from Phase II but what about Star Trek V which I heard it somewhat uses the plot of Kirk vs God which was supposed to be for the first movie?
 
"The God Thing" was an early concept for the first feature film. But I can't recall reading anywhere that it directly influenced the story for STV:TFF.

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Yeah. The script was never called The God Thing. That was going to be the title of the never-finished novel based on the script.

The TV show was going to be Star Trek II also. They dropped "Phase" almost immediately after announcing it.
 
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I had forgotten that Gene's original script wasn't called The God Thing in the beginning. It's a shame that the story never made it into novel form. I'm sure that there is no longer an interest on the part of Simon & Schuster to do so, but I'd personally love to see it written by someone like Christopher, Dayton, Greg Cox , Kevin Dilmore or David Mack. To be sure, it would likely end up being a different story from what Roddenberry cranked out in the 70s, but I think it still would make an interesting read.
 
If I remember from Star Trek Movie Memories, William Shatner was inspired by televangelists when working on Star Trek V. I'd have to check my copy that's sitting in my garage.
 
^While I haven't read either of Shatner's memoirs, he was definitely influenced by the televangelist phenomenon of the '80s; around the same time Shatner was developing the film's storyline, you had Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart both landing in major legal and ethical trouble that brought down their TV ministries.
 
Roddenberry surely felt shatner had plagiarized his “the god thing” concept, a story concept he had explained to shatner once in the late 70s.
 
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I had forgotten that Gene's original script wasn't called The God Thing in the beginning. It's a shame that the story never made it into novel form. I'm sure that there is no longer an interest on the part of Simon & Schuster to do so, but I'd personally love to see it written by someone like Christopher, Dayton, Greg Cox , Kevin Dilmore or David Mack. To be sure, it would likely end up being a different story from what Roddenberry cranked out in the 70s, but I think it still would make an interesting read.
Trust me, you would not want a Christopher take on the Paragame scene in the story, wherein "almost nude" Starfleet females slide around on a billowing oiled surface and...it was ick enough when the Bird wrote it.
 
Trust me, you would not want a Christopher take on the Paragame scene in the story, wherein "almost nude" Starfleet females slide around on a billowing oiled surface and...it was ick enough when the Bird wrote it.
Sounds like Barbarella.
 
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All-righty then!

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I do hope that History Channel's eight-part Trek documentary next month, The Center Seat, covers the various stories that were pitched prior to TMP, including TGT. Who knows, maybe they'll interview the Shats and he'll recall how the Great Bird told him about his idea about God in space.

:angel:
 
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I do hope that History Channel's eight-part Trek documentary next month, The Center Seat, covers the various stories that were pitched prior to TMP, including TGT. Who knows, maybe they'll interview the Shats and he'll recall how the Great Bird told him about his idea about God in space.

:angel:

I don't hold much hope in The Center Seat. It'll just be a regurgitation of the same old Trek stories, fact and myth alike, we've heard for so many years. That being said, you know I'll be watching.
 
"The God Thing" was an early concept for the first feature film. But I can't recall reading anywhere that it directly influenced the story for STV:TFF.

I strongly suspect that Shatner expected Roddenberry to embrace his story about a search for God, because it had echoes of previous Roddenberry themes - but he ended up getting quite public anti-Sybok critiques from both Roddenberry and DC Fontana, who even quoted her old TOS studio memos regarding her attempts to keep Spock "without siblings" so the character would not be watered down. In her novel, "Vulcan's Glory", she deliberately had Amanda state that Spock was "the only son of Sarek". (I once told her in a Q&A that I suspected it was on purpose and she winked and agreed.)

ST II did have Lt Saavik, who was based on a young male Dr Savik from a different ST II pitch, and that Dr Savik may have had roots in Lt Xon of "Phase II", although it could also be coincidence.
 
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I don't hold much hope in The Center Seat. It'll just be a regurgitation of the same old Trek stories, fact and myth alike, we've heard for so many years. That being said, you know I'll be watching.

This is the most recent article I could find on the program:

https://www.dailystartreknews.com/r...-the-center-seat-takes-a-john-oliver-approach

I figure this will give me plenty of viewing material while my wife is away for her company's annual meeting next month.
 
A premier date hasn't been posted yet, but from what I understand, the plan is for the show to air sometime close to the 55th anniversary, September 8. My guess is some promos will being appearing on History Channel before too long.
 
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