It was beyond ridiculous, but at least nuScotty won't have to go to the bother of building an illicit still.Using a brewery for the engine room was the bigger crime for my money...
Phase II FedCon Vignette - Amusing
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True.
I don't like to get into the "brewery" debates, but I will agree with urbandefault and King Daniel on this one.
I think if nobody knew it was a brewery, nobody (barring those intimately familiar with what a big-business brewery really looks like) would have guessed what it was. The tanks don't look like "brewery tanks", they look like tanks. The pipes don't look like "brewery pipes", they look like pipes. And as King Daniel pointed out, tanks and pipes are staples of the TOS look.
I think we should applaud JJ for repeatedly using real sets and locations in an age where it's all-too-convenient to use CGI for everything. Even if it's an "unglamorous" location like a brewery.
I think if nobody knew it was a brewery, nobody (barring those intimately familiar with what a big-business brewery really looks like) would have guessed what it was. The tanks don't look like "brewery tanks", they look like tanks. The pipes don't look like "brewery pipes", they look like pipes. And as King Daniel pointed out, tanks and pipes are staples of the TOS look.
I think we should applaud JJ for repeatedly using real sets and locations in an age where it's all-too-convenient to use CGI for everything. Even if it's an "unglamorous" location like a brewery.
"Again"? I've never noticed you posting that before. (And why should it "upset" anyone?)
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ST '09 came out in early May and we decided to (and then did) shoot this in mid-June--a month later. Our collective braintrust might have considered doing this vignette earlier than mid-June, but since we only gather to the studio pretty much once a year, we didn't really have any earlier opportunity than our mid-June shoot to start putting the thing together.
I don't know how stale the joke might already have become just one month after the release of ST '09. But when the vignette was first screened in Germany, it was pretty well received by the audience in attendance. (Perhaps they are just slow to receive jokes in Germany.)
Since the video is resurfacing and being commented on five years later, I guess that, even now, there are still people who never saw it the first time around.
I don't remember a bunch of tanks and a gazillion staircases in the TOS engine rooms.
Indeed. Not everyone sees everything immediately. I first saw it a few weeks ago and find it hilarious (I guess it may be funnier to those of us who remember the old Roadrunner cartoons). Please thank everyone who participated in making it, because it's really well done, and perfect for cheering up a person when they're having a bad day.
Dennis never has a good day and it obviously didn't help him. 
The vignette cheered me up. Whether it cheers anyone else up is up to them.Dennis never has a good day and it obviously didn't help him.
I just wanted to express my appreciation for this very funny little addition to the Phase II stories.
Oops, must have been someone else. My bad.
Around TrekBBS, old enough - 'shopping some oldTrek ship blowing up the nuEnterprise was considered clever here from about the time the first images of the ship were released.
You kidding? Look at that avatar. Dennis is having All the Good Days.
True dat. No dog will bite me.
To clarify the timeline and the blame.... MY first "Origins" script treatment had a working title of "Origins: Eleven Sucks". It was a joke, (solely my joke - not P2s) and referring to the fact that Star Trek 09 got the origins continuity all wrong - not that the film "sucked" in general. The "Eleven Sucks" never made it past the treatment phase and, obviously, was never on any posters etc. The production wisely giggled at it and then tossed it out. The script that was written from the treatment became titled "The Wreck of the Athens Queen".
When Gerrold came on board to direct I proposed that we toss out TWOAQ and let Gerrold tell his unfilmed "The Protracted Man" story as a Cadet Kirk tale, as it had been many years in the waiting (for the technology and the reason we'd care about TPM to begin with) and he was, of course, David Gerrold. I did, however, decline his requests for me to write the script for him. Dave Galanter wrote it.
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I wrote a draft of the script for David Gerrold, knowing it was (a) his story, and (b) would be re-written heavily by him, which it was. His take on Pike and mine were different. :-)
Again--his story, so his to make the way he wanted. I've only ever seen the clips and never read the final script that was filmed, so what else he changed I don't know, but there was no such dressing down in the draft I wrote. And it was only ONE draft I ever did.
Dave Galanter
Again--his story, so his to make the way he wanted. I've only ever seen the clips and never read the final script that was filmed, so what else he changed I don't know, but there was no such dressing down in the draft I wrote. And it was only ONE draft I ever did.
Dave Galanter
No sweat, Dave. I was just explaining how long ago and far away the "Eleven Sucks" monikor was on the "Origins" episode Phase II developed. And there really wasn't a "final script that was filmed"...Mr Gerrold kept rewriting it on set and we filmed a whole lot of things that were never written anywhere. It's one of the reasons it can't be salvaged - it's not cohesive and several key things are missing.
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