"perfect moment in time"

[Trekker4747]

Aldo said:
Really? I thought it was a beautiful moment in the film.

See, that's a double-edged sword though.

It makes for a beautiful moment in the film but it doesn't make sense in terms of the plot or "reality" of the movie/universe. It's simply there BECAUSE it's a beautiful moment and not because the plot needs it there.

 

[Green Shirt]

The God Thing said:

klingongoat said:
I could think of a lot better "perfect moments in time" instead of blowing a dandilion, or watching a bird flap its wings.

Yes, but depicting an eternal orgasm would have forced a revision of the film's MPAA rating. On the other hand, stretching out that moment when you realize the supermarket cashier has given you too much change would have been the perfect substitute.

TGT

Or better yet, having the gas pump keep going beyond the hundred dollars you paid.

 

[Doug Otte]

RyanKCR said:
I kinda liked it too, even though that was quite a dull film. It was teaching that sometimes we need to just slow down a look at the beauty around you. It was a sci-fi way of saying stop and smell the roses once and a while.

Agreed. It was one of a few wonderful moments in that film (the sunrise scene w/ Geordie, as already mentioned, was another).

On one or two occasions, during meditation, I've experienced the "slow time" experience. I know I'm counting my breaths, and they're not really slower, but for a moment I have the feeling that I'm so "in-the-moment" that time seems to be stretched out. Unfortunately, it only lasts a moment.

Doug

 

[Nebusj]

It's a fine lesson about finding the perfect moments in life .. it just really hasn't got anything to do with the movie, although one can kind of make out where it could have been relevant what with earlier scenes about a harried Picard and crew rushing from one emergency to another while still doing valuable work.

I mean, it does let the way out of the plot cul-de-sac of Woman Lady being trapped in the cave and desperately hurt. But since that plot point was done more because somebody thinks every cave scene has to have a cave-in than because it was actually exciting then it's hard to appreciate having a way out built into the marginal peril.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^I see your point, Nebusj...

 

[SiorX]

sbk1234 said:
I wonder what the ages are of the people who liked that moment compared to those who didn't like it. Me, I'm a 40 year old, way past my youth days. I liked it. In my own way, I could find a way to relate.

Perhaps it does relate to where you're coming from in your own life. I'm 21, and that moment in the film just makes me impatient. It is very pretty, but stretching out a "perfect moment" means putting off the next moment, which might be even better. I have no patience whatsoever for the Baku way of life - what good is having a near infinite lifespan if you live every day the same as the last and never strive for anything new?

 

[MadBaggins]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

Why didn't they slow down time when the bad guys were shooting at them?

 

[Kegek]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

MadBaggins said:
Why didn't they slow down time when the bad guys were shooting at them?

The Matrix hadn't been released yet.

 

[cardinal biggles]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

Touché.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

That could've been really cool if they'd done it before The Matrix did it...

 

[trevanian]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

Oh, how soon they all forget.

THE GAP had done a series of frozen time commercials quite a ways before MATRIX came out, and that look was already so popular that when the vfx guys suggested using THEIR frozentime rig to Berman, HE VETOED IT, saying that look was already played out, that they needed something new.

MATRIX did it brilliantly, and improved upon what went before, but there were a couple different methodologies well tested before either INS or MATRIX. (Lost In Space used timeslice for their frozen time stuff in 97, for instance.)

However, back to TGT's 'eternal orgasm' comment ... I wonder if he remembers that GR had postulated a phaser set to kill that gives the victim the experience of a century-long orgasm as he is vaporized (I think this was for Povill's Trek movie treatment in the 70s.)

 

[Kegek]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

^
I'm backing Berman on that one. In all seriousness, this moment of time was meant to have been quasi-spiritual... using it as a Matrix device, while ooherent with the plot, would have been completely silly... and would have dated Insurrection terribly.

trevanian said:
However, back to TGT's 'eternal orgasm' comment ... I wonder if he remembers that GR had postulated a phaser set to kill that gives the victim the experience of a century-long orgasm as he is vaporized (I think this was for Povill's Trek movie treatment in the 70s.)

Gene was such a repository of... well, twisted erotica.

 

[trevanian]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

Kegek said:
^
I'm backing Berman on that one. In all seriousness, this moment of time was meant to have been quasi-spiritual... using it as a Matrix device, while ooherent with the plot, would have been completely silly... and would have dated Insurrection terribly.

trevanian said:

However, back to TGT's 'eternal orgasm' comment ... I wonder if he remembers that GR had postulated a phaser set to kill that gives the victim the experience of a century-long orgasm as he is vaporized (I think this was for Povill's Trek movie treatment in the 70s.)

Gene was such a repository of... well, twisted erotica.

Do you know Tracy Torme's story about having GR on the phone while the latter was going on and on, rhapsodizing about climaxing? Torme practically was jumping out the window to keep from letting his laughter come through the open line. I think it was in the unauthorized GR bio, but it read so funny I was laughing out loud myself.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

Well, that's one interesting way to die, I suppose...

 

[Kegek]

Re: PERFECT MOMENT TIME

To use an analogy from DS9: 'Death by jama'haron.' Who said it was unfaithful to Gene's vision?