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Perfect Mate - Did Picard and Kamala..?

I'm going to concur with those that said Picard did not sleep with her. But,I do think that he seriously considered it and may have crossed some other line that he regretted which was the source of his annoyance to the question at the end.
 
I think he was able to resist her physically, bit not emotionally considering she imprinted on him at the end. He was probably just embarrassed that he wasn't able tor esist her as the ambassador had claimed.
 
I've always found the premise of "The Perfect Mate" a little silly because the way they described Kamala's bonding sounded to me like the way a duckling imprints. Ducklings are genetically designed to imprint themselves on any moving object that just happens to be around within fifteen hours of birth. During this critical period, they will become attached to and follow anything fitting that general description. Basically, Picard is in the right place, at the right time, and has the right appendage.:D

A little silly, I agree. But also kind of sweet.

BTW, do we know for a fact that the person she imprinted on had to have, um, that particular appendage? What if there was only another female around at imprinting time?

To answer the original question... I agree w/ those who said that they did not have sex, but it clearly wasn't easy for Picard. Which is part of the strength of the ending.
 
Guys - and I'm looking at you GreeShirt in particular, shame on you - but you aren't the only one to totally misread what I actually concluded, which was:

My personal view is that he did not leave her quarters the night before her wedding.

This does not mean that they had sex, although it is obviously what you thought I meant.

Wrong.

"Wishing for a thing does not make it so." J-L Picard

I was quoting and responding to what Looking Glass posted, not anything you concluded --so where does your indignation come from?? :confused:

Not.Wrong.

I wasn't "indignant," Greenshirt, I actually thought your line was funny and was responding in jest too. I don't do smiley faces. Apologies if I offended you. It was not intended.
 
Ducklings are genetically designed to imprint themselves on any moving object that just happens to be around within fifteen hours of birth. During this critical period, they will become attached to and follow anything fitting that general description.
And if they don't see a moving object around they'll wander around forlongingly asking random things. "Are you my mother?"
 
I don't think Picard's that type of guy. Riker maybe, but not Picard. I mean, he probaly was tempted, 'cos of Kamala's man-eater powers, but...no.

By the way, I find it ironic that there's this woman who almost no one can resist or anything, because her name, "kamala" is a word in Finnish, meaning "horrible".
 
i think Picard must have had a low sex drive. he probably only scored twice in seven years, with Vash and Lt. Cmdr. Darren. Or maybe in Insurrection with Anij, who knows? lol...
 
So I haven't seen the Perfect Mate episode in a while and watched it the other night. It hit me that they didn't show Picard leaving Kamala's room the night before her wedding. Did Picard sleep with Kamala?

His tea pot was whistling, so he stayed for a bit of Earl Grey--hot.
 
I don't think Picard's that type of guy. Riker maybe, but not Picard. I mean, he probaly was tempted, 'cos of Kamala's man-eater powers, but...no.

By the way, I find it ironic that there's this woman who almost no one can resist or anything, because her name, "kamala" is a word in Finnish, meaning "horrible".

This is subconsciously very appropo as to what could be more horrible. She's a friggin' prostitute that Picard is falling in love with.
 
It didn't occur to me to question whether Picard slept with Kamala. Throughout the entire series, his character prefers commitment over casuality, and acts as a voice of reason rather than one given to impulses. For that reason, I naturally never doubted that he maintained appropriate formality.
 
It didn't occur to me to question whether Picard slept with Kamala. Throughout the entire series, his character prefers commitment over casuality, and acts as a voice of reason rather than one given to impulses. For that reason, I naturally never doubted that he maintained appropriate formality.

He kind of threw all that out the window with Vash, though.

;)
 
i always thought he hadnt slept with her cause of his surprised reaction to her declaration that she had bonded with him . the look on his face was almost like " how can that be we never even had sex" .

i took it that she apparently chose an emotional connection , rather than a physical one and bonded to him that way.
 
EDIT: ^^(Oh I didn't even see that or realize how old the thread was before replying. Sorry @Mutai Sho-Rin!)



YES, he did. His non-answer belied his inability to deny the question. He fell in love with her which is tantamount to violation of his orders. She imprinted on him. There was nothing left to consummate between them. He may as well have sealed the deal, Because the deal WAS sealed. Even the mucky-muck didn't seem to care.

And also, Jean Luc made love to Kamala in the biblical sense, and I defy anyone to prove otherwise.

Look, the damage was clearly done in every way that mattered.

Jean Luc had no solution to give to Mucky-Muck's query. His only option: A lie of omission. Well, he obviously had need to omit SOMETHING.

And no, he was no paragon of celibate virtue, as his desire for Beverly attested repeatedly.
 
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And no, he was no paragon of celibate virtue, as his desire for Beverly attested repeatedly.

There's nothing wrong with simple desire. It doesn't make somebody less virtuous.

Picard may have had a thing for Beverly, but it wasn't until long after Jack died that he ever acted on it.
 
I like to think that Picard stuck to his guns and refused her. Then she walked down the hall to Riker's quarters...

Hmmm.... first time I read this as: Then he walked down the hall to Riker's quarters....

Seriously though, in my 'head canon' Picard did not sleep with Kamala. In my interpretation, that he didn't answer the ambassador simply indicates that it was more difficult than could be conveyed in a one-sentence answer, and had the pressure kept up much longer he might have broken. But it's interesting to read how other people interpret it.
 
There's nothing wrong with simple desire. It doesn't make somebody less virtuous.

Picard may have had a thing for Beverly, but it wasn't until long after Jack died that he ever acted on it.

That's true to an extent - depending on what philosophy you filter it through. I can think of at least one philosophy that equates thought with deed, but no clear reason it would apply here.

I think the point of Picard not being a paragon of virtue or perfection could also be made citing other experiences. Tapestry, for example; which illustrated just what a failure his life would have become had he maintained the path of virtue.
 
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