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"Past Tense" at 25: What Have We Learned?

I know it's silly but I when I rewatch Past Tense I can't get past Jim Metzler's haircut. It's so early 1990's! It's still a good two-parter and a fun episode to rewatch. Part II is much better than Part I because Sisko kicks ass and saves the timeline.

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When I watch it isn't Jim Metzler's haircut that bugs. It's that 25 years later Kid Rock still wears the look/hat/hair of the Frank Military character. A trajedty.
 
The difference between Past Tense and the real time period, besides them not predicting handheld devices, is we haven't put all the poor people together in one place yet.

In the show though I think the districts drew inspiration from the Jewish ghettos pre-WW2, which implies the intent was to get them out of sight and out of mind before doing away with them.

I won't be optimistic about the future as long as Trumpism controls a third of America's and a good deal of Europe's population, and there are dictatorships as powerful as China and Russia.
 
The thing that always gets me about "Past Tense" is that, after O'Brien and Kira have been bouncing around through time and (at one point) ended up in an alternate 2048 - I think that was the year - O'Brien says something like

"Earth's had its rough patches, but never THAT rough."

I wonder what exactly the hell he was talking about. I mean, surely O'Brien knows about World War III, for example. So what could he possibly have seen in the alt-2048 that would be WORSE than World War III? You'd think a nuclear war would be just about as bad as things could get...

The Eugenics War was considered a world war. And yet, Los Angeles was completely unscathed when Janeway & co. dropped by when the conflict was occurring.

Similarly, maybe 2048 was not that rough at all, aside from fallout from the 2047 earthquake that sank LA and likely rocked the rest of California. Which would have created some unrest, but nothing significant.
 
Did Star Trek really put in that L.A. sank in an earthquake? My mom was a geologist, and that was among her pet peeves: Los Angeles is on the Pacific Plate. The oceanic plates are lighter than the contenental plates. If anything was going to sink, which it isn't, it would be the rest of the country on the North American Plate.
 
The Great Hermosa Quake of 2048 apparently caused some significant damage to Los Angeles per Janeway's dialogue in the episode but I don't think she ever said it sank the whole city.
 
Rewatching the two-parter right now. It still hits hard even if the civilian computer terminals and men's fashions of 2024 look totally wrong. ;)
 
The representative of the Governor of California might have one but if she does it looks more like a 1990s cell phone than a smartphone.
 
What I have learned is that a few malcontents in a building with a handful of hostages aren't likely to change anything regardless of who gets killed and when...
 
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I guess that cellphones and smartphones were forbidden in that ghetto.

Even Chris Brynner didn't seem to have one. He took Dax back to his office to use the communicator there instead of loaning her his phone.
 
Maybe he wasn't allowed to have one too.

I'm not sure why he wouldn't be allowed. He was a rich media mogul who'd never committed a crime, at least up until he got his network to cover the Bell Riots from the prisoners' point of view.
 
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It's the alternate Earth history of Star Trek. In 2024 there just aren't any smartphones like we have them in real life. Hell, in Star Trek we were supposed to have sublight fusion-driven engines for interplanetary spacecraft in 2018.

In real life NASA doesn't have them. In Star Trek we do.
 
It's the alternate Earth history of Star Trek. In 2024 there just aren't any smartphones like we have them in real life. Hell, in Star Trek we were supposed to have sublight fusion-driven engines for interplanetary spacecraft in 2018.

In real life NASA doesn't have them. In Star Trek we do.

Yeah, some guy living in a shantytown will build a faster-than-light spacecraft in a nuclear missile casing in 42 years after a worldwide conflict much deadlier than the first two... Using antimatter which right now is about a million times more expensive than gold!!!

Why do I have a hard time believing that?
 
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