Parallels-revanchist Bajor

[Voth commando1]

In one of the timelines Worf shifts through it's stated that after the Bajorans over power their cardassian occupiers they begin aggressively expanding and attacking the federation as well.

How is this possible? Aren't the bajorans a rather broken society?

How would they start going crazy and attacking everybody when they struggle to get off their own planet?

 

[Tenacity]

Might depend on how soon the Bajorans defeated the Cardassians, if it was before the Cardassians did much damage then the Bajorans wouldn't be "broken."

And the attempt conquest by the Cardassians could have shown the Bajorans that being quiet and meek wasn't the best of ideas given the galatic politics surrounding them.

 

[Sophie74656]

If it's a different timeline/alternate universe it's likely that other things were different. Perhaps they weren't so broken. In that universe they were able to get the resources to overpower the cardassians

 

[Finn]

^ This

In one of the timelines Worf shifts through it's stated that after the Bajorans over power their cardassian occupiers they begin aggressively expanding and attacking the federation as well.

How is this possible? Aren't the bajorans a rather broken society?

How would they start going crazy and attacking everybody when they struggle to get off their own planet?

The circumstances of the occupation probably were different. It is unlikely everything was the exactly same up to the mid 2360s where instead of the peace treaty and Cardassia leaving Bajor, but the Bajoran resistance managed to take down the Central Command and destroyed the Obsidian Order...which would have had some doing.... Same goes for other realities we saw.

 

[DonIago]

Is it even made clear in that timeline that the occupation happened at all?

Perhaps the Bajorans occupied Cardassia instead.

 

[Finn]

Things were quite different. Picard was killed in the Borg Incident (we don't even know how it turned out in that reality), the bridge were quite different and Wesley apparently was done with the academy (meaning First Duty never happened as I'm under the impression the Red Squad were for pilots, not for tactical/security like Wesley appears to be in that reality).

 

[DonIago]

Wesley could have transferred to tactical/security...

 

[BK613]

Perhaps in that reality, Wesley doesn't help Mordock in "Coming of Age" and he gets into the Academy instead of the Benzite. Six years later he's done and back on the Ent-D, as a LTjg.

 

[Voth commando1]

I so wanted to see some bajorans get whupped by the 270,000 enterprises. Curbstomp battle!

 

[Paradise City]

The Bajorans had a flourishing civilisation when humans were in a quite primitive state according to Ensign Ro. Maybe in that alternative reality something occurred that saw Bajor flip from being a society of poets that would become unwise to Cardassian intentions to a society on a war footing that went out to conquer.

Equally the Cardassians were once a peaceful lot until the military took over. Maybe something happened to them that made them open to being conquered.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

There were also elements of Bajoran society that were pretty xenophobic, like The Circle. Perhaps they or a group like them gained power in the alternate Bajor and stole technology from the cardassians?

 

[Finn]

The Bajorans had a flourishing civilisation when humans were in a quite primitive state according to Ensign Ro.

Dork Alert: it was Picard.

Maybe in that alternative reality something occurred that saw Bajor flip from being a society of poets that would become unwise to Cardassian intentions to a society on a war footing that went out to conquer.

Equally the Cardassians were once a peaceful lot until the military took over. Maybe something happened to them that made them open to being conquered.

No. Something about how Riker said it suggests they weren't that different a couple decades earlier.

 

[Emperor Norton]

In theory it can work. It's just the logical issue of an oppressed people not only rising up, but coming to have the war making capabilities to destroy the Cardassian Union and be a threat to the Federation. It would be like the Indians getting rid of the British, and then landing troops in Canada and Australia and using the new empire to threaten America.

 

[Paradise City]

Dork Alert: it was Picard.

I was naming the episode. Hence the italics.

 

[Finn]

I didn't even realize it was in italics

 

[Paradise City]

Maybe the Bajorans found some anti-Cardassian biological weapon and drove them from their world and some other Cardassian rival armed Bajor like Cuba got some heavy duty kit from the Soviets.

 

[Finn]

Or they had an ally in their own sector, in a neighboring star system, a race that never achieved warp capability in our reality, but made it in theirs...

 

[Emperor Norton]

Or they had an ally in their own sector, in a neighboring star system, a race that never achieved warp capability in our reality, but made it in theirs...

The alternate Prophets sent the Orb of Whoopass.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Perhaps the Bajorans occupied Cardassia instead.

That's what I've always assumed as well.

And our own @Nerys Ghemor also does this in her excellent fanfic "Catacombs of Oralius".

 

[Tosk]

No. Something about how Riker said it suggests they weren't that different a couple decades earlier.

Troi's dialogue, "Ever since the Bajorans overpowered the Cardassian Empire, they've become more and more aggressive." doesn't really tell us anything about the nature of that overpowering. Whether they were occupied, or if they may have had a decades-long war with them and finally won...or any other number of possibilities.