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Spoilers Pacific Rim: Uprising - grade and review

Grade Pacific Rim: Uprising

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  • A

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  • B

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  • B-

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • C+

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  • C

    Votes: 1 7.7%
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  • F

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So I got to see the new PR sequel tonight. It's not a great sequel, but it's also far from being the worst. I was expecting it to be less good based on some of the reviews I've read.

C-

As mentioned, I was pretty unsure about the idea of a PR sequel and the trailers didn't really do much for me. They felt very generic, and with the tight way the first movie wraps up, there was considerable concern about finding a valid plot to bring the kaiju back. I'm pleased that even though the pacing of the movie seems a bit too rushed to me, the script addresses that in a way that makes a good degree of sense with respect to the PR universe. I will say at this point I'm not sure if another sequel is worthwhile, but I'll keep an open mind. Some of the plot threads here, in my mind, would have worked better as a third movie if a second good sequel had been made.

The new movie is set a full decade after the end of the first movie, with many of the major cities rebuilding and a new generation of Jaegers and similar technology being employed against the possibility that the Precursors (the race who launched the kaiju through the breach in the original film) will find a way to restart hostilities. Mako Mori (Rinko Kinuchi), one of the heroes of the first movie, is now serving as the Secretary General to the Pan Pacific Defense Corps (PPDC). Her half-sibling, Jake Pentocost (John Boyega), is the protagonist of the new film and the biological son of Marshal Stacker Pentocost (Idris Elba).

Jake was in training at one point during the war to be a Jaeger pilot, even though he wasn't particularly interested in the role and mainly wanted to be near his father. A year before the events in the first film, he was expelled after getting into an argument with his friend and copilot Nate Lambert (Scott Eastwood) and trying to pilot a Jaeger himself despite not being able to handle the neural load of doing so. Because the poorer cities and regions are slower to recover, Jake has chosen to make a lot of his "easier" money by swapping resources as he acquires them and also trying to collect parts from decommissioned Jaegers, a potential goldmine but naturally illegal since the PPDC doesn't want such technology to fall into the wrong hands.

Shao Industries in China, headed by chairwoman Liwen Shao (Jing Tian) is working on the "next generation" of Jaegers, which are intended to operate as remotely controlled units similar to existing drone technology today. She believes that this system will offer much greater flexibility than risking two living pilots per Jaeger, though of course not everyone is convinced. Mako doesn't believe the technology is safe enough, since drones could be hacked or otherwise comprised, and the Jaeger pilots also don't want to be made obsolete. Dr. Geiszler (Charlie Day) from the first film has been her assistant and public face on the drone project, while Dr. Gottlieb (Burn Gorman) has been working at the Jaeger base in China.

After a salvage job goes bad, Jake has a run in with young prodigy Amani Namari (Caelee Spaeney), whose familiar died in the original war when she was a child. She stole the part Jake was after to build a smaller-scale Jaeger prototype named Scrapper, though they are soon arrested by the PPDC. Since Jake has prior arrests for trouble making, he's forced - with Mako's influence - to reenlist as a trainer and help Nate train new troops so he can avoid a jail sentence. Amani is enlisted as a cadet due to her skill, despite Scrapper being technically illegal.

Things start to turn bad when a seemingly routine meeting of the PPDC Council is attacked by a rogue drone Jaeger, resulting in Mako being killed. When it's later learned that this unit has a kaiju brain controlling it (one whose biology differs from the genetic structure of its forebears, meaning it was created on Earth and not the other universe), Dr. Gottlieb soon makes a horrific discovery.

In the first film, one of the major plot points was Geiszler's idea to try a mental link with a kaiju brain, which gave them vital information to closing the breach but also created a link between his mind and the Precursors. When the drone Jaegers are deployed and the kaiju components snuck into them are activated, it's realized that Geiszler has spent the past decade being unwittingly brainwashed to help make a new invasion possible. Some of the drones attempt to open multiple new breaches, and Gottlieb manages with Shao's help to shut them down, but several powerful kaiju make it through the breach while Geiszler escapes in the chaos.

Jake's group battles the kaiju in Tokyo, although the fight isn't without a high cost eventually (of the eight cadet pilots, three are killed off and most of the Jaegers are disabled or destroyed). Geiszler apparently planned for this contingency and also modified some of Shao's automated technology to allow the kaiju to merge into a single powerful entity, which wants to destroy Mt. Fuji because kaiju blood reacts violently with a heavy concentration of mineral deposits. Gottlieb had made this discovery while trying to perfect a boosting systems for use on Jaegers, and the resulting destruction would be horrific for the entire planet.

I won't really give away the ending, but overall the script isn't as bad as it could have been. There are a couple of major issues I have, the biggest one being Mako. It's always great to see returning cast, and I enjoyed Rinko in the first film, but she really doesn't get enough to do here. She literally has about five minutes of total screen time and her death could have been a good emotional moment for Jake, but it comes way too early. The fact that she and Jake are half-siblings and share a very close bond is addressed in one very nice scene, and that's about all we get to see. The character of Nate was initially intended to be Raleigh Becket (her partner from the first film), but was changed when Charlie Hunnam was unavailable with a scheduling conflict.

I have some issues with Charlie Day as well, as his performance feels a bit more... scattered than the first film. While I understand, within the context of the timeframe, that it's fair to suggest the Precursor influence is pretty strong at this point, it would have been nice to see more of an inner struggle since part of Geiszler is aware of what's happened and that he's not his proper self. But most of what we see is an Evil! version who kind of only shows up for the later battle as it's convenient.

There are a lot of interesting concepts and new characters, but one of the problems is the film's pace is too frenetic. It moves very quickly from point to point and doesn't give us the time to really flesh out most of these characters in the way that the first film did for most of its protagonists. I don't think the movie is entirely too much mindless action, personally, but the battles don't have the same epic quality compared to the originals.
 
Wow...that doesn't look good...just one review? And reading it I am disappointed in the fate of one.

Well...is it worth a $5 Tuesday showing?
 
It was pretty good. The villain was a nice surprise. I liked that it simply wasn't just the Pre-Curses opening up a new portal and starting again.
I gave it a B
 
I'm giving it an A, mostly because my expectations were actually far surpassed. I'll agree with the thought that too much was happening too fast and that Mako should have had more to do, but overall, it was a solid sequel that felt worthy...

The twist about the bad guy was really cleverly done and I didn't see it coming at all... The "Honey, i'm home" scene, felt to me like a knock off comedic relief scene rather than a set up as to what was really going on...

I've read complaints about the fighting taking place during the day, rather than the night, but that really didn't bother me... The only thing that really stood out in my mind as a problem was:

The almost complete destruction of Tokyo. They reference that the entire city has evacuated to underground shelters.. But it happened awfully damn fast.. Too fast, for my taste. Unless they had ordered it well before the kaiju got close. But still...

I really thought John Boyega did a great job and 'damn' Scott Eastwood was channeling his dad SO much in some of those scenes... It was fun to watch. I definitely recommend this to fans of the first. The critics are not giving it a fair shake.

So far, it's taken in 150 million, worldwide, which makes back its production budget. Obviously, China is a huge target audience for this movie and it shows in the story.
 
I thought it was ok, but preferred the first.

Boyega did a good job and the good thing about this one to me was that the action was more visible during the day.
They wasted Mako though.
 
I think even before the reviews I wasn't expecting anything amazing from this. I loved the first one but just figured it would have the common "not as good as the first one" factor to it, wasn't directed by del Toro, more of a TV director, less budget, no return for Charlie Hunnam... etc

So from ages ago all I was really hoping for from this was just an enjoyable movie with some giant robots fighting giant monsters. And I pretty much got that. I found it enjoyable enough, yup not as good as the first, but if you liked that I still think it's totally worth seeing.

There were definitely some kickass super cool moments in this one, but I kinda felt like it could have done with a few more. There was nothing as awesome as the "empty the clip!" and "no pulse" moments from the original.
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Also Tian Jing (who was also in Kong Skull Island) is gorgeous. Just saying :)
 
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I finally got to see this earlier today, and I really enjoyed it. It's not as awesome as the first one, but I still enjoyed it.
I do agree that they should have done more with Mako.
I don't hate Charlie Hunnam as much as some people do, but John Boyega was a better lead here than Hunnam was in the first.
The whole cast was good, I liked pretty much everybody. I saw a couple reviews complaining about the lack of development for the supporting cast, but I was pretty happy with what we got for pretty much everyone. I think it's pretty obvious that a movie like this isn't going to go real deep on every character, and this was pretty clearly Amara and Jake's movie, and I was happy with what we got for them. The supporting characters did all get at least one or two moments to shine, and that's enough for me. If they do a third one, I really hope they can bring as many of them back as possible.
Since this is a spoiler thread, I'm not coding my spoilers, so if you really don't want to know them, I'd stop reading now.
I figured out pretty quickly that it was one of Shao's drones that attacked Syndey, but I did not expect the whole Jaeger/Kaiju hybrid thing, or that Newt was behind it.
I loved Shao showing up in Shao showing up in Scrapper at the end. The three Kaiju combing into a "Mega Kaiju" was pretty cool too.
I thought Charlie Day was great as evil Newt here. I have to admit, after this I would love to see Day play the Joker.
 
I was a massive fan of the first one, absolutely love it.

This one just seemed like a decent enough sequel, but it stripped a lot of what I liked about the original and everything just felt the same but lesser. The soundtrack wasn't nearly as good, the robots didn't move right, the cockpits and suits looked worse. I mean in my head I chalked them up to just being more advanced, since they now had time to develop without worrying about Kaiju incursions, but the cockpits were just really clean and it looked like they were on treadmills rather than controlling a huge machine. Also while the battles were decent enough, again the robots didn't move with the same weight and power that they did in PR and it became very disaster movie style at times, I liked how in PR1 they tried to avoid collateral damage and civilian casualties in a lot of cases. Then in this one you have Gypsy using its gravity gun to pick up buildings and cars to smash, even the plasma cannon took no time to charge up. I remember Stryker Eureka running to save Cherno Alpha in the first one, it was running really slow, took time to spool up into a full charge etc. I just hated that whole new design asthetic.

On the plus point, I was glad to see the return of Newt and Hermann who were great in the first movie together but I was wondering where everyone else was, only Mako came from the first movie and I know they kept Raleigh's fate ambigious because the only reason Hunman didn't come back was scheduling conflicts but surely a few familiar faces in the command center would've been nice. Saying that, I thought Boyega was good in it, Eastwood was passable as usual but the addition of the kid squad wasn't really welcome, it was a bit annoying in fact. I didn't hate the movie, but I had a ton of issues with it which stem from it being a sequel.

Gave it a C+.
 
Also while the battles were decent enough, again the robots didn't move with the same weight and power that they did in PR and it became very disaster movie style at times, I liked how in PR1 they tried to avoid collateral damage and civilian casualties in a lot of cases. Then in this one you have Gypsy using its gravity gun to pick up buildings and cars to smash, even the plasma cannon took no time to charge up.
By collateral damage are you talking about people being killed or just the buildings and things being destroyed?
 
They had a giant battle in the middle of Tokyo and basically, out of no where, said "everyone in the city is safe!". It reminded me of the post-Man Of Steel stuff cause they were embarrssed about that.
 
For me, the movie was almost as bad as the independance day sequel. I liked Newt as the surprise bad guy though.
 
Ok...saw it on Redbox...it was decent but disappointing.

Mako should have had the Scott Eastwood role...and maybe if it wasn't 10 years they could have had Boyega and Elba in a scene together.

I would have liked to get to know more of the supporting actors.

Was the Mako actress busy? Because it was a waste.

Also, I forget the name of the actor (I am on my phone) but the command center guy who was in 1...wish he was in 2. I doubt he would have been too busy for this...

I wish they had labels somewhere because I couldn't remember any Jaeger names.

And isaw they only for $59 domestically...looks like Pac Rim 3 Will have to be a fan film!
 
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