^I don't think it was blindly following orders in FC; Bev just knew that there was no reasoning with him. She'd seen him through the hurt with the Borg and had seen how he reacted with Hugh.
P/C run amok...
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That's right. One of my favorite sci-fi shows.
I also think Bev should have went after him in FC and she should have been with him instead of Troi in GENERATIONS. I think that scene would have been more powerful with her. He was there for her when her family, i.e. Jack, died she would definitely do the same for her.
Well, I'm back! Tell me you missed me. 
Let's see how many posts I can respond to in one go without disrupting the natural flow of this thread...
Actually, I think you've hit upon something that TPTB didn't: the fact that once they get together, their relationship can be portrayed in a very subtle way. Really we wouldn't have to see much more than we do already... the occasional breakfast or dinner together, Picard playing a role in Wesley's life, expressions of concern for one another when things are going badly. All we really want is the implication of a little more besides all this.
CrazyMaryT and winged victory, I'm glad to hear that you liked my story. I have a few more P/C offerings here and there... just click on the link in my signature if you want more.
That is it, isn't it? Unless you count kissing Wesley, which personally I'd rather not. Very sad. Was this for your new avatar, D. Destiny?
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Well, obviously the HOT SEX is the important part; the rest is just commentary.
Actually, I think you've hit upon something that TPTB didn't: the fact that once they get together, their relationship can be portrayed in a very subtle way. Really we wouldn't have to see much more than we do already... the occasional breakfast or dinner together, Picard playing a role in Wesley's life, expressions of concern for one another when things are going badly. All we really want is the implication of a little more besides all this.
CrazyMaryT and winged victory, I'm glad to hear that you liked my story. I have a few more P/C offerings here and there... just click on the link in my signature if you want more.
That is it, isn't it? Unless you count kissing Wesley, which personally I'd rather not. Very sad. Was this for your new avatar, D. Destiny?
*leading chorus* We missed you Naraht...
Looking good, D. Destiny. Doing a little Bev/Deanna slash are you?
Looking good, D. Destiny. Doing a little Bev/Deanna slash are you?
Let's play a little mini round of "Bev's hair: guess the season," shall we? I think that the pictures of both Bev and Deanna are from All Good Things... am I right?
As for Gold Grizzly's question about worst P/C scene, that's a really difficult one. In a sense, we have so little to go on that any scene which even acknowledges the existence of a P/C dynamic is going to be welcomed by the fans. Thinking about it, though, the scene that upsets me the most is the fireside one in Attached, with all that "and now we're friends" nonsense. I always end up shouting at the screen at that point! The other candidate is probably Arsenal of Freedom, which also leads the viewer to expect a lot more than actually happens. She says that she's going into shock, and needs to be kept warm; Picard just basically shrugs and wanders away. Meh.
As for Gold Grizzly's question about worst P/C scene, that's a really difficult one. In a sense, we have so little to go on that any scene which even acknowledges the existence of a P/C dynamic is going to be welcomed by the fans. Thinking about it, though, the scene that upsets me the most is the fireside one in Attached, with all that "and now we're friends" nonsense. I always end up shouting at the screen at that point! The other candidate is probably Arsenal of Freedom, which also leads the viewer to expect a lot more than actually happens. She says that she's going into shock, and needs to be kept warm; Picard just basically shrugs and wanders away. Meh.
Bev's shot is, yup. Somehow I'm not at all surprised you got it right
Deanna's from another eps thoughP/C has always annoyed me. Not because I don't like them as a couple, but because TPTB did such a piss-poor job of handling them (likewise with Riker/Troi) interpersonal romantic relationships really weren't TNG's strength, which is a pity because the cast had amazing chemistry going on.
Personally I loved the alternate future in All Good Things though, with them getting divorced (don't shoot me!) because it showed a more realistic relationship then the constant "I love you, but I ain't gonna tell you and happily pretend you're just a friend". I can see the two of them being toxic together, they're both so strongwilled that it's not a stretch to see them driving each other insane, and that's part of the fun
I can't think of an absolute worst scene though. My mind's still all messed up by watching "Brothers"
@OHappyDagger; Just a little
Worst P/C moment? Angel One gets my vote. On the face ot it it should have a lot of things going for it but the acting seems sorely off.
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The other candidate is probably Arsenal of Freedom, which also leads the viewer to expect a lot more than actually happens. She says that she's going into shock, and needs to be kept warm; Picard just basically shrugs and wanders away. Meh.
I was just thinking the same thing--so much potential in that cavern, but nothing came of it. What if Beverly was in critical condition? Would Picard have told her his feelings for her or just pretend not to care? Personally, I love this episode (any episode where the two of them are trapped together gets an A from me), but I wish the P/C dynamic was handled better.
And your point is?
Really, I do feel she was the one that had the feelings at that stage whatever Attached retrofitted later. It was up to her.
Up to her? Up to her?? She was in shock and practically unconscious at that point; in what sense was it up to her? The least he could have done, in a friendly sense if nothing else, was lend her some of his body heat. I'm sure she would have done the same for him...Posted by mon capitaine:
And your point is?
Really, I do feel she was the one that had the feelings at that stage whatever Attached retrofitted later. It was up to her.
If she was in shock and practically unconscious then all the more reason to blurt out the truth of her feelings. We don't even get a 'Jean-Luc there's something I've been meaning to tell you' moment. If there's not enough P/C in that episode then we can hardly blame Picard who is oblivious to how she feels about him. He does what he can medically for her and tries to find a way out all the time keeping her in conversation.
Works for me.
Works for me.
Here's a question for you, then: if she had declared whatever it was she'd been meaning to tell him, whether in seasons one, three, or four... how do you think Picard would have reacted? There's a thought experiment for you! Of course, it depends on what you think she was going to say. 
Hmm. Now there is a thought. Assuming she is actually going to say "let's get it on" (or words to that effect) and not "Wesley is your son" or "Did you kill Jack?" or even "your flies are undone" then I guess his reaction would probably be different in each of the seasons.
Season One – he'd run a mile
Season Two – oh if only
Season Three – Wesley would still be in the way. A respectful decline I'd say
Season four/five – He was too busy picking up babes then. Besides she had the Host to fall back on.
Beginning of Season Six (post inner light, pre- Lessons) – Her best chance blown. I'd say it would have been on if she'd picked her moment then.
Season Seven – "sorry darling, I'm looking forward to nailing some ass in the feature films"
And so the misery of P/C watching continues....
Season One – he'd run a mile
Season Two – oh if only
Season Three – Wesley would still be in the way. A respectful decline I'd say
Season four/five – He was too busy picking up babes then. Besides she had the Host to fall back on.
Beginning of Season Six (post inner light, pre- Lessons) – Her best chance blown. I'd say it would have been on if she'd picked her moment then.
Season Seven – "sorry darling, I'm looking forward to nailing some ass in the feature films"
And so the misery of P/C watching continues....
I think that they'd have skillfully worked it around to a "now we're friends" resolution like they did in "Attached".
There was already some delightful sexual tension, so there would've been more.
So we're saying she had a window of, what, a couple of months to make her move, tops? No wonder they never got together.
Not only did Jack propose to *her*, but she got a nice book into the bargain. I think that what you're proving to me here is that Jean-Luc Picard is seriously deficient in romance. Meh.
Priceless!Well, he's a guy. Of course he's deficient in romance.
It's no good the princess sitting around hoping he's going to make his move. She needs to seize the moment more.
New excerpt from "Death in Winter"... and this one has mega-spoilers... 
http://www.psiphi.org/cgi/upc-db/excerpt/074349721X-2.html
http://www.psiphi.org/cgi/upc-db/excerpt/074349721X-2.html
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