P/C run amok...
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^If that had been Riker and Troi, you bet there would've been some kissin'!
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I'd say simply that he had lost interest over the years, but the events of "Attached" rekindled his interest. That fits.
Besides, he's with Starfleet, they don't lie ...
^Except in matters of the heart... 
Has she though? Discounting Naked Now ('cos it's dreadful and presumably the characters chose to ignore it too), what has she done to show interest over the years? Desk perching and barging in for breakfast aren't traditional mating techniques. Has she really made it plain?
There were fairly strong hints in "The Big Goodbye", though he seemed blissfully unaware of them. Having an insight into her mind would end all doubts, of course.
It sounds like we're bird watchers, you know... "the mating habits of the red-headed doctor bird..."
And yes, I agree, she hasn't exactly gone out of her way to show her interest, except perhaps in The Big Goodbye. She flirts with him, but then, flirtiness seems to be her normal state of being, even with Wesley.
On the other hand, though, there is the traditional "Jean-Luc there's something I've been meaning to tell you"; the song of the red-headed doctor bird. Don't you think that he might ask her, once they got back from these away missions, what it was that she wanted to tell him?
And how *should* she have gone about showing him that she was interested, assuming that she wanted to? This knowledge might well be useful to my life at some point.
Oh wow, that's an alarming thought. I don't want to think about her flirting with Wesley. <shudder>
Still I understand what you mean. She does more of a matey/sister flirt rather than a sexual partner flirt with pretty much everyone. This explains her success in getting near to Picard and having breakfasts but also her failure to be taken seriously as anything more than a friend/sister.
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It sounds like we're bird watchers, you know... "the mating habits of the red-headed doctor bird..."
... and the bald eagle
On another topic, I wonder what split them up in the "All Good Things" timeline? There was a a line in the novellisation, from memory ...
... Although this didn't make it into the episode, or the script that's available on the internet for that matter. It seems a possible reason, though, that his illness may have sent her into "Doctor Mode" ...
... Although this didn't make it into the episode, or the script that's available on the internet for that matter. It seems a possible reason, though, that his illness may have sent her into "Doctor Mode" ...
I'm sure she married him when he was vulnerable and needed her and then dumped him the first sign of difficulties. 
Well, I think we can assume that it was all Bev's fault, of course ...
See. See. That's 2 against 1. Ha!
Not fair! If you two don't play nice, I'm going to go home and take my thread with me!
Seriously, we don't have any actual evidence that they divorced *after* Picard became ill. It's quite possible, given that this played out over something like twenty years, that their marriage failed relatively quickly, before they had realised that Picard's days were numbered. It would certainly add to the pain and guilt surrounding it.
If, on the other hand, the marriage broke up after he had been diagnosed, I think that makes it far more likely that Picard wanted to end it. I just can't see Beverly abandoning him like that. On the other hand, I can see Picard, if things were already getting rocky, coming off all noble and saying "I don't want to hold you back; you go and pursue your career," etc etc. And Beverly, if things were bad enough, saying "well, all right then," and storming off. Followed by the divorce...
On another note, if this thread does hit 1000 posts, what do you think should be the title for the next one? They have some good thread titles for the shipper threads over in ENT. (Never thought I'd say "good" and "ENT" in the same sentence, alas!)
So far I've thought of:
"P/C: our ship has sailed"
"P/C: ship of dreams [or even "ship of fools"?]"
"P/C: we're not shippers, really!"
"P/C: because Jack's dead"
I'm fond of P/C because Jack's dead I must say.
OK, playing nicely: is the future timeline independent of the the present timeline or are all three completely seperate? I only ask because Bev knows he will get sick in the present and we get that rather fine kiss suggesting that is the moment their relationship finally took off. Of course if the future timeline is not a natural continuation of that moment then yup, she might not know about his predisposition to the illness.
By the by, do you think Picard told her about it afterwards anyway? We hear in the poker scene he's filled in the crew about what happened/could happen but surely he'd keep that little secret safe from Dr C and also Starfleet?
OK, playing nicely: is the future timeline independent of the the present timeline or are all three completely seperate? I only ask because Bev knows he will get sick in the present and we get that rather fine kiss suggesting that is the moment their relationship finally took off. Of course if the future timeline is not a natural continuation of that moment then yup, she might not know about his predisposition to the illness.
By the by, do you think Picard told her about it afterwards anyway? We hear in the poker scene he's filled in the crew about what happened/could happen but surely he'd keep that little secret safe from Dr C and also Starfleet?
Yes, the different timelines didn't effect each other in that way.
It's hard to know how much he told them. Riker and Worf had been told about their dispute, and presumably the cause of it as well, so it doesn't seem like Picard held much back.
It's hard to know how much he told them. Riker and Worf had been told about their dispute, and presumably the cause of it as well, so it doesn't seem like Picard held much back.
Is Picard's future ill-health set in stone, or could it be just a variable in the scenario invented or exaggerated for effect by Q as part of his test of Picard.
I think that Picard has a brain defect which makes him susceptible to some mental illnesses, but they may never develop in him.
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