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Out of Step: Starfleet's Most Unwanted

Thomas_Sullivan

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We know there are members of Starfleet who, despite displaying enough intelligence and general aptitude to graduate the academy, don't quite fit in for various reasons, from lack of confidence to holo-addiction and hypochondria. What are some other flaws that might cause one to have difficulty fitting in or performing their duties properly?

For the hypothetical scenario, let's say there's a science survey station outside of Federation controlled territory where the minimal crew's responsibility is largely to collect and analyze sensor data of the surrounding region. They have a small vessel, and occasionally go out to collect samples or gain better sensor readings, but ultimately most of their job is data related and, to most people, probably a little boring. This outpost is where a group of Starfleet officers and enlisted personnel were placed because they were competent but lacking in the ability to function as a part of a starbase or starship with more pressure and responsibilities for whatever various reasons.

What sort of flaws or failings could these people have that would not make them generally incompatible with Starfleet or too incompetent to graduate the academy and be assigned any duty at all?
 
that lower deck guy in Voyager is a good example (Good Shepard might have been he episode title). he was well educated and competent but lacked ambition
Barclay, variety of things that didn't fit the tng bridge crew norm
 
that lower deck guy in Voyager is a good example (Good Shepard might have been he episode title). he was well educated and competent but lacked ambition. Barclay, variety of things that didn't fit the tng bridge crew norm

"Good Shepherd"
is the title of the episode, yes, and the character you're referencing was Mortimer Harren. He was a legitimate genius in the area of theoretical physics but had no interest in excelling in the field's practical application. He was only interested in the academics and theories of science, and had accepted posting aboard a starship only because it was a requirement for the position he actually wanted to pursue.

That's a good episode and a good example of the sort of thing I am looking for. The three flaws we get for the characters in it are a lack of ambition or interest in practical work (and an extremely condescending nature) from Mortimer, a bad case of hypochondria from Billy (I don't recall his last name right now), and a lack of confidence from Tal Celes (who has to work harder than the people around her to learn the skills she needs.)

Barclay is much more talented academically than Celes (in fact, I would call him a genius without reservation), but he likewise suffers from shyness and insecurities, and like Billy suffers from a form of hypochondria.

I was hoping we could figure out some more flaws that might fit the parameters I suggested in my original post, which are definitely satisfied by those four.

Any other suggestions anyone?
 
I don't see why people being assigned to a science station must constitute a "flaw or failing". Some people aren't 'people persons', or are introverts, or want to help 'the cause' but aren't looking for the life of adventure that a starship is more likely to offer. If you want good officers who will do good work, shouldn't the most important criteria be what their strengths are and what kind of work will make them reasonably happy?

At my job I'm a Business Analyst, and to be that requires a degree of being able to work with other teams and departments. A couple of my teammates, on the other hand, get the tech but aren't great with the people-side of things and it's unclear whether they want to be better. They're possibly more suited to be Systems Analysts, but that's not a flaw or failing on their part, it's a recognizance of what they're good at and want to do.

Alt-Picard in "Tapestries" apparently suffered a permanent career setback because his superiors perceived him as having a lack of ambition, but we have no idea how he actually felt about that, because we only ever saw our Picard in Alt-Picard's shoes. And if not him, maybe another person would have been happy enough to do what he was doing without any significant expectation of advancement.

Then we have Ensign Kim, who didn't advance for seven years, and we're left wondering why not.
 
I don't see why people being assigned to a science station must constitute a "flaw or failing".

I didn't say it must constitute a flaw or a failing. I simply stated that the premise of my hypothetical scenario was that these officers had been placed on a duty which required less responsibility or social interaction from them because something about them made them less efficient or less capable in higher responsibility, higher pressure settings such as on many starships or starbases.

I wasn't asking for reasons they must have flaws under these circumstances. I was asking for what flaws might exist to justify someone being put into that position for that reason.

Some people aren't 'people persons', or are introverts, or want to help 'the cause' but aren't looking for the life of adventure that a starship is more likely to offer.

All true, and none of which do I disagree with in my premise. If a character requested to be placed in such a position because it's what they wanted to do and they really dislike starship life, that is certainly a viable reason. I never suggested otherwise. I simply asked for alternate explanations that fit within a specific parameter - in this case that the character has some sort of personality quirk (if you prefer the word quirk to flaw; perhaps it is more accurate) that was responsible for that duty posting.

Introversion is also a flaw when it extends beyond certain limits, and there have been multiple characters who struggled with this throughout The Next Generation era Star Trek, among them Reginald Barclay. An officer needs enough extroversion to assert themselves when necessary, to communicate their ideas with others, and so on. While you may not consider introversion a flaw, it does make one a flawed Starfleet officer if it is not kept in check.

If you want good officers who will do good work, shouldn't the most important criteria be what their strengths are and what kind of work will make them reasonably happy?

If you want good officers, yes, you do need to pay attention to what their strengths are as well as what their interests are. Who said otherwise?

You seem to have misunderstood my intentions somewhat. My entire premise is literally built upon the fact that these people were placed on this survey station because that is where their strengths would do the most good and their flaws would do the least harm, both of which are critical to having a functioning Starfleet.

A couple of my teammates, on the other hand, get the tech but aren't great with the people-side of things and it's unclear whether they want to be better. They're possibly more suited to be Systems Analysts, but that's not a flaw or failing on their part, it's a recognizance of what they're good at and want to do.

It would, however, be a failing if they wanted to do what you do and weren't good enough to do it, which is a part of my premise. Again, I never stated wanting to do one thing over another made people flawed, but asked what flaws could make people bad at one thing and thus get them placed in a career position where they were dealing with the other.

Further, I never stated that having flaws or failings means something negative about a person as an individual. It doesn't inherently mean anything about a person except that some of us are one way and others another. I want the individuals in question to be generally likable. They're the protagonists of our scenario after all. I was just exploring what flaws they might have as individuals that would impact their abilities and could be responsible for them being assigned to a less high pressure duty, which is after all the premise I am working with.

To put it another way, if I asked "what tragedy could a hero have suffered to inspire them to become a hero?" that wouldn't mean I was saying "All heroes must have suffered a tragedy in order to be inspired to become heroes." It would mean I wanted this hero to have suffered a tragedy and I was looking for examples that might serve that purpose.

Alt-Picard in "Tapestries" apparently suffered a permanent career setback because his superiors perceived him as having a lack of ambition, but we have no idea how he actually felt about that, because we only ever saw our Picard in Alt-Picard's shoes. And if not him, maybe another person would have been happy enough to do what he was doing without any significant expectation of advancement.

Someone may have been. There are certainly individuals who lack a desire for advancement. That isn't inherently a bad thing. In an organization like Starfleet, though, it means that other people may be prioritized for more high profile or prestigious duties.
 
Someone with Torres' report card from the Academy, with a suspension and multiple disciplinary hearings against them, they have potential but have issues fitting in with the discipline and regulations that might stifle their creativity and free thinking.
 
Well there's always Ensign Ricky. Remember when he crashed the space forklift into the wall of the cargo bay causing partial decompression, and this was even after he'd already been reprimanded for not tying down those barrels that fell on Lieutenant Worf's back! He knew the rules: two strikes and you're out. At least Picard wasn't a total jerk and just booted him off to Outpost 47.
 
"Good Shepherd" is the title of the episode, yes, and the character you're referencing was Mortimer Harren. He was a legitimate genius in the area of theoretical physics but had no interest in excelling in the field's practical application. He was only interested in the academics and theories of science, and had accepted posting aboard a starship only because it was a requirement for the position he actually wanted to pursue.

I very much doubt Harren was a Starfleet academy graduate in the first place. First off, Janeway calls him 'crewman', indicating he would have no commissioned rank. As you say, he only was on board because for some reason, the Institute of Cosmology on Orion I required a 'year of hands-on experience'. Also, assuming he was only interested in theoretical physics, as he seemed to be, wouldn't it have made much more sense for him to have attended a regular top theoretical research university (we know these still exist in the 24th century) rather than Starfleet, which would probably be more on the applied side of the spectrum?

He seems like the type of person that would never have made it into Starfleet (as a commissioned officer), but be weeded out in the process, presumably during his Academy years.
 
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What about simply being a species that most Starfleet ships and space stations aren't equipped to accommodate?

I'm thinking of Melita from DS9
 
[Shameless self-promotion alert]My fanfic series Orion deals with a ship of rookies, retirees, and reprobates as not every ship can be the best and brightest. Set during the Dominion War, so every able bodied officer and crewman is put to use in some form, as such the Orion was an old ship dragged out of mothballs and set to work in a support role.

The characters included a 30-year old captain promoted quickly through the ranks thanks to the war, a 50-something XO whose previous performance has been deem 'adequate' at best, the security chief was once a Lt. Cdr. but was demoted following an incident of gross insubordination a few years earlier, the chief engineer was like the CO in that she was very young and inexperienced though a good techie, the ops manager was the only one without any issues but with no other ships available he was landed here with a chip on his shoulder, the doctor was long since retired but reactivated for the war and was from the McCoy school of crotchety, the conn officer graduated from an accelerated Academy course only a few places from the bottom of his class, and the chief of the boat was a Maquis defector who was captured and offered to stay in a penal colony of go back onto active duty.[/Shameless self-promotion alert]
 
I'm sure that Starfleet has its less impressive personnel, like any organization. They probably serve multiple purposes:
* Worker bees. They are assigned jobs within the parameters of their abilities and skills. Like lubricating warp plasma manifolds.
* Or, they might get bureaucratic jobs with short hours and limited responsibilities.
* They might also wind up on older ships that do routine jobs.
* If they're talented, like Barclay is, they might receive counseling to help them function more normally.
* In a situation like Harry Kim's, Starfleet would likely examine the greater situation. The assessment for Harry would be: "excellent officer, but his CO was unusually stingy with promotions. Promote to lieutenant and reassign."
 
I'm sure that Starfleet has its less impressive personnel, like any organization. They probably serve multiple purposes:
* Worker bees. They are assigned jobs within the parameters of their abilities and skills. Like lubricating warp plasma manifolds.

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For some reason, this makes me think of MegaMaid from "Spaceballs".

I wonder if the Borg could adapt to being sucked up by a vacuum cleaner the size of North Dakota.

EDIT: OK, it's not the size of North Dakota. According to the wiki, Spaceball One is 7 miles in length, and MegaMaid would be similar. But that's still one big honkin' Borg sucker-upper!
 
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