OT: What other franchises would you like to see the Trek authors write

[Greg Cox]

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O.k., how many of you, Greg (the only guy who doesn't have me on ignore) would like to see him start a spin off series within the next movie for tv or novels?

Are you talking about Abrams? I'm looking forward to the next movie, but that's all I know. Here's hoping it leads to more movies, comics, and books.

 

[xortex]

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One more question. Will you be allowed to start new series within the nu Trek franchise?

 

[Sci]

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One more question. Will you be allowed to start new series within the nu Trek franchise?

Well, at least one series has started within the nuVerse -- the current Starfleet Academy series.

As for future novels, the answer we in the public have been consistently given so far is, "We don't know."

 

[Lonemagpie]

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O.k., how many of you, Greg (the only guy who doesn't have me on ignore) would like to see him start a spin off series within the next movie for tv or novels?

Why not - if they could keep the quality up.

 

[Christopher]

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Seems to me the writers are writing for a now invalidated and defunct universe that has been erased and superimposed. How many of them would like J.J. Abrams to recant his position on nu Trek and try like hell to get back to TOS one way or another?

You completely misunderstand the intent of the 2009 movie, which was to create a parallel timeline that coexists alongside the established Trek universe. The last thing the filmmakers wanted to do was "invalidate" the established universe.

Although I don't see what this has to do with the topic of this thread, which is about franchises other than Star Trek. Perhaps you meant to post this comment in a different thread?

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: OT: What other franchises would you like to see the Trek authors w

One more question. Will you be allowed to start new series within the nu Trek franchise?

Well, at least one series has started within the nuVerse -- the current Starfleet Academy series.

As for future novels, the answer we in the public have been consistently given so far is, "We don't know."

That's because we don't know anything.

At some point, there may be more nuTrek projects, but who knows? It all depends on what CBS/Paramount/Pocket decide in the future.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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One more question. Will you be allowed to start new series within the nu Trek franchise?

Well, at least one series has started within the nuVerse -- the current Starfleet Academy series.

There's also IDW's ongoing Star Trek series, which debuts this week. I realize the question was geared towards novels, but comics do count as literature.

As for future novels, the answer we in the public have been consistently given so far is, "We don't know."

The absence of novels is conspicuous. The movie continuity is being furthered in comics, video games, and young adult novels, but adult novels are off the table. At times, I wonder if Margaret Clark didn't somehow poison the well with Bad Robot.

Seems to me the writers are writing for a now invalidated and defunct universe that has been erased and superimposed. How many of them would like J.J. Abrams to recant his position on nu Trek and try like hell to get back to TOS one way or another?

You completely misunderstand the intent of the 2009 movie, which was to create a parallel timeline that coexists alongside the established Trek universe. The last thing the filmmakers wanted to do was "invalidate" the established universe.

One can make the argument that Spock and Nero disappearing into the past closed a time loop and wrote a new future in the same way that the Enterprise-C returning to 2344 in "Yesterday's Enterprise" did or Admiral Janeway rewriting Voyager's journey home in "Endgame" did. That doesn't "invalidate" anything; the four series -- Star Trek, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and Star Trek: Voyager -- still happened, they just happened in a closed timeline, though. It depends on which theory of Star Trek time travel one believes is the more significant, since the series has at times shown us that there's a single timeline that can be altered and multiple branching timelines that continue to exist. Closing off the pre-2387 timeline is a valid interpretation of the film.

 

[Defcon]

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The absence of novels is conspicuous. The movie continuity is being furthered in comics, video games, and young adult novels, but adult novels are off the table. At times, I wonder if Margaret Clark didn't somehow poison the well with Bad Robot.

The Bad Robot crew seems to like to have a very close oversight over ST09 related tie-in products, as indicated by Orci & Kurtzman writing the direct movie tie-in comics and IIRC one of them is involved with the ongoing series, so maybe they wanted to have someone of them involved with the editing and/or writing of novels beyond the usual approval process and Pocket/their editing team weren't willing to do that for the main novel line (the YA line has a different editing team if I'm not mistaken) ?

 

[DorkBoy [TM]]

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The ST09 writing staff, before the movie came out, publicly stated that their intent was not to invalidate or close the "prime" universe but to create a parallel offshoot from it so they can move forward independently without being bound by prior canon.

From what I understand this kind of thing happens all the time in superhero comics?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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The ST09 writing staff, before the movie came out, publicly stated that their intent was not to invalidate or close the "prime" universe but to create a parallel offshoot from it so they can move forward independently without being bound by prior canon.

Yes, I'm well aware of that. I was simply pointing out that, in universe, that may not necessarily be true based on previous stories.

 

[BrotherBenny]

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I'm with Greg that Cold Case should have been licensed for a novel line, but on the other hand a big part of that series was the period-specific music which the novels would have a hard time replicating, even with authors as good as you guys are.

I always thought the various Law & Order franchises should have had tie-in lines. They're so formulaic it would have been easy.

Numb3rs would have been interesting for some tie-ins and the British TV show Waking the Dead (it's similar to Cold Case) would have been great. It seems that scifi shows are more apt to get tie-ins than crime from what I'm seeing with all the authors have done (the exception being Murder, She Wrote, Diagnosis Murder, CSI and Monk).

 

[captcalhoun]

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Waking the Dead can't have novels. you can't replicate Boyd's CONSTANT SHOUTING ALL THE TIME ON THE PRINTED PAGE!

 

[Allyn Gibson]

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I always thought the various Law & Order franchises should have had tie-in lines. They're so formulaic it would have been easy.

There were a couple of Law & Order novels in the mid-90s. There were also some Homicide novels.

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: OT: What other franchises would you like to see the Trek authors w

I'm with Greg that Cold Case should have been licensed for a novel line, but on the other hand a big part of that series was the period-specific music which the novels would have a hard time replicating, even with authors as good as you guys are.

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And yet they are putting out GLEE novels . . .

 

[Christopher]

Re: OT: What other franchises would you like to see the Trek authors w

The ST09 writing staff, before the movie came out, publicly stated that their intent was not to invalidate or close the "prime" universe but to create a parallel offshoot from it so they can move forward independently without being bound by prior canon.

From what I understand this kind of thing happens all the time in superhero comics?

Not all the time. There is Marvel's Ultimate universe, which was created for much the same reason as Abrams Trek, to give a fresh start to the universe and allow it to be updated and freed from decades of continuity baggage, and which exists alongside the mainstream Marvel Universe which continues the original continuity (a continuity that's been reinterpreted and reinvented and time-shifted many times while pretending to be continuous). But then you've got DC Comics, which tends to erase its old continuity when it stars a new one, as it is currently in the process of doing with the "New 52" continuity debuting this month. Although there are always bits of the old continuity that are kept, and sooner or later authors come in who preferred the old ideas and reintroduce them to the current continuity, and it all becomes more and more of a mess until DC decides to reinvent it all yet again.

Then you've got something like the Young Justice TV series, which was conceived specifically to be one of the unexplored parallel Earths that the comics continuity had established a few years back in its previous continuity revamp. Although since they've redone the whole thing again, I'm not sure if that model still holds.

 

[Jedi_Master]

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The new series "Terra Nova" on Fox looks like it was built for tie - in media. Novels would be a great addition to that show I am very excited about.

 

[JD]

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I'm with Greg that Cold Case should have been licensed for a novel line, but on the other hand a big part of that series was the period-specific music which the novels would have a hard time replicating, even with authors as good as you guys are.

I always thought the various Law & Order franchises should have had tie-in lines. They're so formulaic it would have been easy.

Numb3rs would have been interesting for some tie-ins and the British TV show Waking the Dead (it's similar to Cold Case) would have been great. It seems that scifi shows are more apt to get tie-ins than crime from what I'm seeing with all the authors have done (the exception being Murder, She Wrote, Diagnosis Murder, CSI and Monk).

There are also tie-ins for Psych, Burn Notice, and one either just came out or is coming our for Royal Pains. Apparently, NBC Universal is pretty open to tie-ins, which is why I'm really hoping they do White Collar novels in the near future.

 

[BrotherBenny]

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It would seem that USA Network has a deal with Signet books for all its tie-in lines as Psych, Burn Notice, Royal Pains and Monk are all published through Signet and the eBooks through NAL, Signet's parent company.

I am assuming that Signet, Pocket/Gallery and only a handful of other imprints actually deal with tie-ins, the exception being Lucasfilm since the tie-ins are handled in-house.

ETA: A sit corrected, there's a list of Top 20 imprints dealing with tie-ins here

 

[Sci]

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The absence of novels is conspicuous. The movie continuity is being furthered in comics, video games, and young adult novels, but adult novels are off the table. At times, I wonder if Margaret Clark didn't somehow poison the well with Bad Robot.

Did you seriously just impugn Margaret Clark's job performance and professionalism by speculating that she soured the relationship between S&S and Bad Robot on the basis of no particular evidence right there? Seriously?

'Cos I'm pretty sure you just did. And I find it kind of offensive.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Re: OT: What other franchises would you like to see the Trek authors w

The absence of novels is conspicuous. The movie continuity is being furthered in comics, video games, and young adult novels, but adult novels are off the table. At times, I wonder if Margaret Clark didn't somehow poison the well with Bad Robot.

Did you seriously just impugn Margaret Clark's job performance and professionalism by speculating that she soured the relationship between S&S and Bad Robot on the basis of no particular evidence right there? Seriously?

'Cos I'm pretty sure you just did. And I find it kind of offensive.

You're right, Sci. I did impugn her professional reputation.

But I can't say that particular statement was original to me. It's not. It was something I was told. I'm just the one with the honesty to state it openly.