The original's not bad at all, but the second one doesn't look right.
If I have a real criticism or nitpick of the AI version is that it might look a bit too sharp in resolution particularly about the faces. I'm not sure even the Bluray transfers look that sharp.
When I did my photoshop efforts I blurred the images a bit and added some film grain to make them look more vintage. But those touches also served to help veil the imperfections. I also did my best to match colours as well as keep the lighting and shadows consistent. The AI version looks to have corrected my imperfections, but as I mentioned above the heightened resolution seems a wee bit odd given we're not accustomed to seeing TOS like that.
Very nice!(Soft blurred and re-grained)
Depends on how you interpret this:
MENDEZ: You ever met Chris Pike?
KIRK: When he was promoted to Fleet Captain.
Of course, that could be when they first met, not the only time, which is how SNW took it...and made Pike Fleet Captain just long enough to make the line work - lol. To be further nitpicky, one would question if Kirk would cite that detail when talking about the time they met instead of "during the blah blah blah incident."
TBH, they should have just said "when I took over the Enterprise from him."
Of course, since the original series, just the very next line says this:
MENDEZ: About your age. Big, handsome man, vital, active.
...then all of the timing and dialog is in question. That is, if you look at it as something more than an episode nobody expected people to memorize.
So, I’m stuck with the Vulcan?(Soft blurred and re-grained)
So, Pike is mid 30s? And the Talos mission was 11 years earlier? So Pike was in command of the Enterprise with the rank of captain while in his mid 20s?
Thirteen years. So early twenties. Holy Abrams, Batman!
Well wasn't it a quick turnaround? Maybe no time for a final polish.
I lived through it. Twice.
Don't confuse the preparation for assuming command—and the pomp and circumstance that goes with it—with the actual transfer of command, which your original comment seemed to be aimed at. There is a singular moment in time when one stops being the CO and the other starts.
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@Ssosmcin My comments were in reference to Warped9's faux image of Kirk and Pike meeting, that them being on the bridge would be something that could happen within the context of how things happen in RL.
From what I read I assumed the actual formal procedure would be rather brief and that the rest of it could take a few days, but not necessarily so.
If the transfer of command took place on Earth then Kirk and Pike might interact over a couple to a few days before the actual formal transfer. But if Kirk has to rendezvous with the Enterprise at a starbase or in deep space to take over from Pike then the whole thing could be over within a few hours to maybe a day. Either way both men would have had some advance notice of their respective changes in promotion and reassignment.
"Get off my bridge, Kirk. You're not captain yet."
Best I got is Mendez is reminiscing out loud about how Pike is in his memory, the way he likes to remember him. In Mendez's mind, Pike is still Kirk's age and healthy.
The Writer's Guide said Kirk made starship captain younger than anybody before him, IIRC.
Jeffrey Hunter was 38 when he made The Cage, which fits with Kirk being younger. 38 plus 13 makes injured Captain Pike 51. And that seems fine.
That's where I landed, too. Mendez's line "About your age" is just a misstatement by the character.
We have to remember that Kirk’s bio was essentially Pike’s bio as they were initially the same character save for the name change. They didn’t really become different characters until they decided to use “The Cage” footage to make the two-part “the Menagerie” and thus created a bit of filmed in-universe history. In his time Pike might have been one of the youngest starship captains. Note that throughout TOS the other starship captains we saw tended to be older men in their 40s or more.
Of course there is advanced notice; the orders are cut long before they are actually carried out. And crews also know, otherwise there wouldn't have been all that chipping, painting, cleaning and brass-polishing beforehand
.But the actually transference of authority, accountability, and responsibility happens in a moment, which is what I was initially addressing.
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Also, we know definitively that lifespans are significantly longer. McCoy is seen in "Encounter at Farpoint" at 137 years old.
Given that, it's possible that Mendez could be generalizing someone in their late 30's and early 50's as being "about your age" the same way we might today say that someone who is 45 and someone who is 50 are about the same age in general terms.
In Wrath of Khan Kirk sees 35 and 49 as dramatically different ages.
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