Origin of Mirror Universe?
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From what was shown on Enterprise, the MU is not a divergent timeline. It's always been "evil".What do we know about how the mirror universe was created?
Here's one hypothesis -- The mirror universe may have been created when McCoy saved Edith Keeler.
What do you think?
Interesting. Can you give me the exact episode(s) on Enterprise where this is explained.
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In A Mirror DarklyInteresting. Can you give me the exact episode(s) on Enterprise where this is explained.
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What do we know about how the mirror universe was created?
Here's one hypothesis -- The mirror universe may have been created when McCoy saved Edith Keeler.
What do you think?
The Starship Farragut episode "For Want of a Nail" travels back in time to the Revolutionary War era. They make wonderful use of the local Revolutionary War reenactors. We see the exact moment of divergence between the two universes.
What do we know about how the mirror universe was created?
Here's one hypothesis -- The mirror universe may have been created when McCoy saved Edith Keeler.
What do you think?
I started this as a possibility here a few months back! But a few people thought it had been in existence a long time before that but I still stick with my original idea!
JB
Sorry I didn't see your post, JB.
It's fun to consider all the possible connections among the various episodes.
Given the comments about Kirk rising to become the Ceaser, I always assumed that the Mirror Universe was one where the Roman empire never had it's Age of Chaos in the 3rd and 4th Century and instead went on to explore and conquer the whole world. Or perhaps (given that they speak English and not Latin) that the Empire almost fell but instead of Constantinople, the new capitol became London.
(Before anyone points out all the logical historical flaws in this idea, let me be the first to admit it's pretty weak sauce from a "just the facts" angle... )
--Alex
(Before anyone points out all the logical historical flaws in this idea, let me be the first to admit it's pretty weak sauce from a "just the facts" angle... )
--Alex
Actually, that's the only "real" theory that makes any sense. If the mirror universe diverged from the prime universe a long time ago, then there's no way that Kirk and Co. could have exact "evil" duplicates on an "evil" Enterprise, because things would have changed so drastically that nothing would have been the same in the two universes by that time.
What made more sense is that that the Halkans somehow created this evil parallel universe in the crew's minds to teach them a lesson. But of course that's not how the episode relayed it, nor how DS9 handled it later.
One of the biggest clues for me pointing to the Halkans is that spot where McCoy spilled acid a year ago, so the duplication of the ship had to be at least since then. That the Halkans apparently have some form of video communication while appearing to be primitive pacifists may be another clue. Then there's that business of them sitting outside watching an ion storm, which Spock describes as violent and unpredictable. I suspect the Halkans were more advanced than we're led to believe.
Then there's the business of the landing party in the wrong uniforms, which makes me think it's a transfer of consciousness instead of physical bodies. That's where DS9 misreads it completely for me.
I would recommend the movie Quest for love made in 1971 where a scientist experimenting with the random forces winds up as a writer in a parallel universe! There he is a famous writer rather than a scientist and a womaniser! Joan Collins plays his wife in the alternate reality where WW2 never happened, and a famous scientist he knew in his world is also a scientist here concludes that the schism took place in 1938! It's based on John Wyndham's book Random Chance I believe and is played more as a love story it has to be said but the other world is indeed very interesting!
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Melakon - the spot of acid thing really is strong evidence - why else then would it be there?
Or then it really does paint the Halkans as incredibly powerful, universe altering beings. Fledgling Organians, maybe?
Or then it really does paint the Halkans as incredibly powerful, universe altering beings. Fledgling Organians, maybe?
I just don't buy that even though it sounds very interesting! For a start things have been this way for many years and not just in the last year or so!
JB
JB
No matter when the universe began, it would quickly become wildly divergent from ours. Just one death or shag would result in a totally different set of people centuries later. So the bottom line is, as soon as DS9 started playing with it, the whole thing became ludicrous
But it's a lot of fun, no?
Good point but there seemed to be no alternate Kirk there so maybe it was an anti-matter universe rather than an alternate mirror one!
JB
JB
In an infinite multiverse, the chances are (simultaneously) infinitely good, and infinitely unlikely, that characters in the MU would be in any way similar to the ones in the RU.
As for the origin: Who's to say there is one? I think the MU always existed. There doesn't have to be a split.
As for the origin: Who's to say there is one? I think the MU always existed. There doesn't have to be a split.
If there is an infinite number of universes, then some universes will be very close to our own. No divergent theories necessary.
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