I think Lady Q will bring her back. Except, knowing her luck, she probably will have no clue as to who she is.
Online Petition Bring Back Kathryn Janeway!
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I think the writer left her with Lady Q in case they decided to bring her back as some point in the future. However, I don't think they're going to bring her back.
So are the books actually 100% canon? I just have a hard time believing that. Ugh what a stupid decision on the writers' part though.
So are the books actually 100% canon? I just have a hard time believing that. Ugh what a stupid decision on the writers' part though.
The books are 0% canon. Gene Roddenberry declared so I think, I know he claimed the last two(?) original series movies non-canon and the animated series too.
And I see Janeway coming back. I hope, anyways. She's too popular of a character and her death was as the Klingons would say dishonorable.
Now I'm curious, who blew up the Borg cube she was on? I'd like to think it was Chakotay, since they had just gotten together(like I said, she has the worst luck) before he had to leave on a year long mission with Voyager.
So, who did the final killing?
Yeah, books are never canon.
Ugh what a stupid decision on the writers' part though.
Only that neither part was the writer's decision. The killing was the editor's decision, the Lady Q back-door reset button was mandated by CBS.
Ugh what a stupid decision on the writers' part though.
Only that neither part was the writer's decision. The killing was the editor's decision, the Lady Q back-door reset button was mandated by CBS.
CBS actually cares about the non-canon books?
Ugh what a stupid decision on the writers' part though.
Only that neither part was the writer's decision. The killing was the editor's decision, the Lady Q back-door reset button was mandated by CBS.
CBS actually cares about the non-canon books?
CBS cares about all licensed material. They have a department that deals with all products that carry the Star Trek banner and makes sure it doesn't contradict what's on-screen. The Lady Q part was inserted just in case Janeway was used in the movies or a future series, but there were no plans by the editorial office at the time to bring back Janeway. Of course the editor responsible at that time was laid off some time ago, so no one knows if the current or any future editor will bring her back at some time in the future.
Ugh what a stupid decision on the writers' part though.
Only that neither part was the writer's decision. The killing was the editor's decision, the Lady Q back-door reset button was mandated by CBS.
CBS actually cares about the non-canon books?
Of course - it's their characters being played with.
The whole canon/non-canon thing has always been of far more importance to fans than it has those in charge. If the people in charge of Star Trek really wanted STV, TAS and "Threshold" de-canonized they would be gone forever - yet there they all are on DVD, and shown again and again on TV for everyone to see. If they thought the novels as toxic as some fans believe them to be, there wouldn't be any novels. To them it's all Star Trek.
And remember that those non-canon novels are where Sulu and Uhura got their first names, and where James Kirk got his parents. They're an influence on canon.
Okay, wait a minute -- this just isn't true. Sulu, Riker and Troi are on different ships; Scotty's stuck in a transporter and Kirk has disappeared for 80 years; Data and Jadzia are dead; Sisko is gone. It looks to me like fans of other series have all accepted, even embraced similar "compromises". All these series have irreversibly changed (and rightly so if you ask me, it would be sad and kind of unbelievable if the status quo were still pretty much the same for these people after a decade or so of their lives), so why should Voyager be immune? These comments that "Voyager isn't Voyager without Janeway" are just ridiculous, in my opinion.
On the other hand, what's stopping Pocket from putting out more stories set during the 7 years of TV? TOS and TNG got a whole pile of those, but not so much for DS9 or VOY. Whatever happened to those numbered novels?
disclaimer: I haven't read hardly any of the novels that are set post-TV/movies yet. Pretty much all I know so far is that Janeway's dead and Ezri's a captain.
With this crowd you may get some answers you haven't bargained for!
Seriously, how about some decent stories featuring her in her role as admiral? They don't just sit behind the desk all the time after all.
That would be nice.
I'd like to see her actually have a relationship instead of a one-night angst filled scene, too. It'd be nice to see how she handles the ordeals of whatever sector she is actually in charge of.
It apparently has to do with the Romulans based on Trek X, so there has to be a lot of espionage and intrigue there.
I'd like to see her actually have a relationship instead of a one-night angst filled scene, too. It'd be nice to see how she handles the ordeals of whatever sector she is actually in charge of.
It apparently has to do with the Romulans based on Trek X, so there has to be a lot of espionage and intrigue there.
Good point. If her duties involved the Romulans as the film would imply then there are tons of dramatic opportunities right there.
Her duties didn't involve the Romulans, she was just the admiral handing Picard his orders. In the books, she ended up the cliche, obnoxious, self-righteous Admiral getting in the way of Picard and Kirk doing their jobs.
Supposedly the movie people somehow wanted Jeri Ryan in the film instead of Mulgrew. I guess had Seven somehow been on the Enterprise, Shinzon/Seven would have made more sense than Shinzon/Troi (Shinzon hated Donatra because she wasn't human - yet Troi's isn't either!)
Supposedly the movie people somehow wanted Jeri Ryan in the film instead of Mulgrew. I guess had Seven somehow been on the Enterprise, Shinzon/Seven would have made more sense than Shinzon/Troi (Shinzon hated Donatra because she wasn't human - yet Troi's isn't either!)
Since the books have nothing to do with what happens on screen, we can't say for sure that Janeway's current assignment didn't involve the Romulans. They don't just snag an admiral in the hallway and say, "Here's Picard's orders. Call him." I think it is only natural to think that she is very much involved in dealing with the Romulans because of that scene in "Nemesis."
Plus, you've brought up one of my worst pet peeves about the books--the way they reduced Janeway to the "cliche, obnoxious, self-righteous Admiral getting in the way." I think that just shows the attitude of the editors/writers toward both Janeway and admirals, because, fact is, she does not have to be that way. In fact, how refreshing it would be to have her be the admiral that doesn't fit that mold--but that is thinking way outside the box of the current stable of writers, apparently.
I'm sure they wanted Jeri Ryan in "Nemesis" so she could wear a different skin-tight suit or two. Bully for her refusal to take the role. I'm just glad to know that Janeway is an admiral--it rankles the non-Janeway fans so much.
Pocket Books sucks. Not only did they write Janeway out of character but then killed her off. Then they had the nerve to wonder why a lot of Voyager fans were reading fan fiction instead of their books. Idiots.
I'm almost half way through Full Circle at the moment, and Kirsten Beyer's written everyone really well. I know I'll get a shitstorm for saying this, but I'm really looking forward to how everyone reacts when she dies.
