I love all 5 new shows. But, one thing I have noticed is each show is even better and more enjoyable after rewatching it. I am currently rewatching Lower Decks now. I like it even more the second time and I enjoyed it the first time. The same as Picard, Discovery (sorry haters), and Prodigy. Anyone else find this?
One thing I noticed about NuTrek
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Not really.
I'm absolutely on board with "NuTrek" but I struggled to get through Picard S2 and Discovery S4 once. Both of which I'm a fan of but their recent runs were poor - a rewatch is out of the question. I couldn't get through Lower Decks S1 once.
That's still four seasons of Trek I like and I'm looking forward to SNW, but I'd much rather watch that when it drops than something I've already seen.
There's certainly a novelty to rewatching the newer shows mostly on account of the fact that I haven't had the chance to watch them countless times already and therefore don't have them memorized like I would shows (and movies) from 1966-2005. But I'm not sure I'd say they get better on rewatches.
It was really, really nice going back to Discovery seasons one and two. Three... was okay. Four, I have yet to rewatch. Picard season one was a mix of gold and erm... some not gold, but overall I enjoyed the rewatch a lot. Season 2 I have yet to see again but likely will before season 3 arrives.
Lower Decks definitely improved with rewatches, there are so many details and references in every frame you pick out a lot more on round 2.
I recently rewatched the Kelvin trilogy and it was fantastic. The first two in particular will always have a special place in my heart.
Lower Decks definitely improved with rewatches, there are so many details and references in every frame you pick out a lot more on round 2.
I recently rewatched the Kelvin trilogy and it was fantastic. The first two in particular will always have a special place in my heart.
Only Lower Decks for me.
Agreed on all counts with the OP. DSC and LDS especially.
Completely agreed.
Strangley for me, in spite of how much I've enjoyed the new series, I've struggled qith the rematch due to it being serialised.
I love the serialisation for the initial watch but it adds a level of attentionspan to the rematch that I'm not looking for - the thing I love about a casual rewatch is that it is background noise while working usually.
So LD has been great, and S1 of Disco I'd say is, for the most part, only semi serialised so has had a couple of runs. And I have noticed a few things on 2nd viewing of those that have been fun bits missed previously.
Now I know at some point I will do a genuine rewatch but I tend to do those after a series has wrapped up, or there becomes a big gap between series.
I know it has been said a few times but an Ent 4 mini arc approach or maybe a DS9 final 10 eps (where it was like Dis 1 in terms of continuing story but mostly self contained) would work better than the full serialisation.
I think I'll be adding SNW to my rewatch list as soon as the series finishes, having said all the above, as it has a really nice episodic but with character serialisation going on
I love the serialisation for the initial watch but it adds a level of attentionspan to the rematch that I'm not looking for - the thing I love about a casual rewatch is that it is background noise while working usually.
So LD has been great, and S1 of Disco I'd say is, for the most part, only semi serialised so has had a couple of runs. And I have noticed a few things on 2nd viewing of those that have been fun bits missed previously.
Now I know at some point I will do a genuine rewatch but I tend to do those after a series has wrapped up, or there becomes a big gap between series.
I know it has been said a few times but an Ent 4 mini arc approach or maybe a DS9 final 10 eps (where it was like Dis 1 in terms of continuing story but mostly self contained) would work better than the full serialisation.
I think I'll be adding SNW to my rewatch list as soon as the series finishes, having said all the above, as it has a really nice episodic but with character serialisation going on
That's the thing with re-watchings. Sometimes you'll like it more, sometimes the nitpicks start to become apparent. After that, you might still be able to enjoy the piece as it is, become ambivalent toward it, or outright dislike it.
And it's not just NuTrek but any show. But as example, let's look at (...ruffles through my jar filled with slips, of which each has one title from all episodes from all of the thousands of TV show titles ever produced and aired...) DS9's "The Visitor" - it sure grabs your emotional fun parts and gives a good stout squeeze. But rewatch it and the questions start to be asked as to why this strange lady just wanders on by to visit this senile old guy, who spent his life writing entertainment, who believes that killing himself will change time and bring him and his father back together. Most people would call up the federation funny farm and say the crazy old guy was about to commit suicide with schizophrenic beliefs.
And I don't say that in a bad way; there are episodes of TV shows that treat the viewer like a cesspool if it otherwise wasn't for the shiny visceral-tugging coating (and not always intentionally; scriptwriting has deadlines and sometimes one has to even make edits on the day of filming, which is something actors aren't fond of because then they have to learn their lines impromptu and still sell it with the level of authenticity the viewer is expecting.)
Since others are opining, I will admit some of NuTrek (as with OldndullTrek) can be a decidedly mixed bag -- but there have been enough individual scenes that make interesting and worthy points. Maybe a rewatch will give a new appreciation for the episodes as whole episodes and not the too-common "great scene in an otherwise (expletive) bad episode." Heck, in TOS there were 79 episodes and half are watchable and of those, a quarter or less of those are truly great. (Anyone who rates every episode as 10/10, or 1/1, has a different story...)
In other words, it's amazing how a good presentation can gloss over the craziest plot points. And what one wants in said presentation.
And it's not just NuTrek but any show. But as example, let's look at (...ruffles through my jar filled with slips, of which each has one title from all episodes from all of the thousands of TV show titles ever produced and aired...) DS9's "The Visitor" - it sure grabs your emotional fun parts and gives a good stout squeeze. But rewatch it and the questions start to be asked as to why this strange lady just wanders on by to visit this senile old guy, who spent his life writing entertainment, who believes that killing himself will change time and bring him and his father back together. Most people would call up the federation funny farm and say the crazy old guy was about to commit suicide with schizophrenic beliefs.
And I don't say that in a bad way; there are episodes of TV shows that treat the viewer like a cesspool if it otherwise wasn't for the shiny visceral-tugging coating (and not always intentionally; scriptwriting has deadlines and sometimes one has to even make edits on the day of filming, which is something actors aren't fond of because then they have to learn their lines impromptu and still sell it with the level of authenticity the viewer is expecting.)
Since others are opining, I will admit some of NuTrek (as with OldndullTrek) can be a decidedly mixed bag -- but there have been enough individual scenes that make interesting and worthy points. Maybe a rewatch will give a new appreciation for the episodes as whole episodes and not the too-common "great scene in an otherwise (expletive) bad episode." Heck, in TOS there were 79 episodes and half are watchable and of those, a quarter or less of those are truly great. (Anyone who rates every episode as 10/10, or 1/1, has a different story...)
In other words, it's amazing how a good presentation can gloss over the craziest plot points. And what one wants in said presentation.
I haven't had a chance to re-watch DSC Season 4 or PIC Season 2 as of yet. I want to do a proper binge of both, but can't find the time do it. I could re-watch one a day, but I want to see how The Binge Effect actually feels, going straight through.
But for just a plain re-watching the episodes, I got new things out of DSC Seasons 1-3 and PIC Season 1 that I hadn't before. I already liked them a lot, but re-watching them allows me to appreciate them on a different level than just a fresh reaction. I suspect it'll be the same for the Star Trek shows this season as well.
I'll do a re-watch of PRO too, which isn't something I would've ever expected to say if you'd told me before the series aired.
But for just a plain re-watching the episodes, I got new things out of DSC Seasons 1-3 and PIC Season 1 that I hadn't before. I already liked them a lot, but re-watching them allows me to appreciate them on a different level than just a fresh reaction. I suspect it'll be the same for the Star Trek shows this season as well.
I'll do a re-watch of PRO too, which isn't something I would've ever expected to say if you'd told me before the series aired.
I agree for Lower Decks. Strange New Worlds is so new I haven't rewatched any yet, Prodigy doesn't seem to be rerun in my area, and I have no wish to rewatch much of Picard and Discovery.
I always find new layers to enjoy in the serialized telling. Discovery especially.
That could be described as "new" in relation to TOS and the TOS movies. But the slangy/"kewl" spelling of "Nu" is used for Trek movies and series from 2009 onward, as these are separated enough from previous Trek productions to be viewed as their own thing. It probably came from "NuWho" being used by the Doctor Who fandom for everything from 2005 onward in that franchise.
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I find it more difficult to rewatch old episodic Star Trek these days. If you watch the last season of DS9, it feels like it won't quite end for a couple of episodes. And a lot of material is repeated over and over again. I think, this is because the showrunners probably approached it from the POV of viewers not being able to watch every episode. Times were different. But the repetition of the storyline buried in episodes gets tiresome fast.
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