Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by JD, Sep 30, 2013.
Camelot. It's mentioned here and last season we met Lancelot. We've seen Dr. Frankenstein so how about Dracula, The Mummy and the Wolfman? Narnia?
I expect we will see OUAT's version of Oz eventually.
John Carter, The Lone Ranger and Tron.
Seriously though, it would be fun to see them crossover into more Disney/Public Domain worlds. I wonder how crazy they could get, like could you have Tarzan in the dark jungle or whatever?
It's a good thing they have such a killer premise because it's so "soap opera" in presentation, or maybe Lifetime/Hallmark. I guess I've been watching too many gritty programs.
Anyone notice in the Rumpy/Belle scene on the cliff he wasn't casting any shadows? It just looked odd since everything else was.
Did Giancarlo Esposito return as the mirror?
I've only seen the premiere of this season so far, but... man, this show is so bad.
I feel like I am only watching it just so I can enjoy how bad it is. The effects are incredibly dodgy in a lot of places, although that doesn't bother me too much--it's an effects-heavy show and they have to make it on a budget somehow. But the hardest thing to swallow was everyone on the ship taking so long to figure out that their emotions were causing the storm. They were all acting ridiculously to begin with, and it's not clear if the mermaid was somehow exacerbating their negativity or what. And then you had the gigantic wave looming over them, which should have been enough to flood/capsize the ship, except in the next shot they just get some water poured on them and when we come back things are more or less fine. That whole scene probably should have been cut, it was just so poorly conceived and executed.
I'm curious to see how much of a badass Pan turns out to be. He must have some advantages that Rumple fears. And speaking of Rumple, he is pretty much the only reason I continue to watch this. Robert Carlyle is always 100% watchable.
That's because earlier in the show he cut his shadow loose, and sent it to hide his dagger.
I'm betting the end of the season they'll return to Storybrooke and find that it's disappeared or all the fairytale people have gone and it's populated with Earth people, or something like that.
I thought this week's episode was okay. It was a bit strange being back in old fairytale world, and mostly it was filler and predictable, but I do love seeing Regina in full evil queen mode.
Hook's little barbs are awesome. I liked Emma coming to terms with her being an orphan, really enjoyed that scene, and I like the bit afterward with Pan telling her that Henry hasn't forgiven her for abandoning him. I got a kick out of the mention of Rufio as well.
When the little doll fell from the sky I thought it was going to be Tinkerbell. I didn't like the Rumple bits too much, felt quite repetitive and it doesn't seem like he's actually doing anything on the island. I did like him cutting off his shadow though.
Another thing I didn't like was David being hit by the arrow and then not telling anyone. That's worthy of a
OUaT's writers continue to show just how brilliant they are and what the format of the show allows them to do with regards to telling the stories they want to tell.
Hook described it best when he called Pan a bloody demon, as did Regina when she referenced the term 'smugness'. This kid thinks he's got all the answers and has everybody doing what he wants them to do, but that's exactly why he's going to fail.
Rumple was absolutely brilliant in this episode, and I have to say that I was totally right about the doll having something to do with him and his father. The conceit of his psyche manifesting itself in the form of a vision from Belle might be an old one that we've seen countless times in other places, but it worked perfectly nonetheless.
I also got a kick out of the doll returning after Rumple threw it away and then burned it.
This comment indicates that you missed the broader underlying thematic story of the episode, and what its title actually refers to. What the PTBs and writers have done since the start of Season 2 and that they very much did in this episode was to take two thematically linked story ideas - one from the present and one from the past - and play them out alongside each other. The title "Lost Girl" isn't just a reference to Emma's lingering abandonment issues, but also a reference to Snow 's lack of confidence in herself. In a sense, Snow was 'lost' until Charming got her to embrace her inner strength through his ruse with 'Excalibur', just as Emma needed to face down and admit just how deeply she was affected by Snow and Charming's attempt to keep her safe and give her her 'best chance'. There's a parallel between the two women - mother and daughter - and, although Snow passed her test and found herself, Emma's just starting that journey and will probably end up in a similar situation in the end.
Charming keeping the fact that he's hurt and now has the Darkshade poison in his bloodstream a secret isn't going to end well, but Pan's assertion that Emma's going to end up an orphan for real is a bit too premature.
Some other stuff that made the episode great:
* Emma and Hook's 'meta' conversation about Peter Pan, what Hook is like in the traditional Peter Pan stories, and Hook's love of rum
* Hook's direct shout-out/reference to the movie HOOK and the character of Rufio
Agree it was a bit of a letdown after the fast-paced season opener. As much as I like keeping the focus on these major characters, I'm not sure we really needed another flashback to the Snow vs Regina standoff prior to the curse. I mean, we get it already-- they don't like each other.
I realize they were trying to create a thematic link with the present, but surely they could have found some slightly fresher territory to explore than that.
I also can't help but wonder why either Regina or Rumple don't just use their considerable power to wipe out Pan and his lost boys in one fell swoop (or at least use their Force-choke power on him until he gives in). Or teleport themselves around the island until they find Henry.
Unless Pan has some kind of "magic dampening field" set up, this search should really not take that long at all.
They used Hook (aka, the writers) to counter Regina's ability to teleport around. Apparently, doing so is somehow more dangerous than just stumbling into the same dangers with lots of stomping and caterwaulin' as they "sneak" through the jungle. He didn't say there was anything stopping her from doing so, just that doing so would guarantee she land in a pile of poisoned plants or some other dastardly danger of the island. Presumably, Rumpelstiltskin knows this as well, what, being just as experienced on the island as Hook is.
Idiotic, yes, but that's what the writers have decreed to be fact. Thus it is.
And I agree, the tedious flashbacks to the past to fill out an episode is really getting old, especially when its the same thing over and over. At least we get to see Snow with some hair. So there's that. (Why the fuck hasn't she grown it out since the curse broke? She looks ridiculously horrible with that 'do.)
Then again, even in the Enchanted Forest, I can't even fathom how Snow was supposed to be more attractive than Regina, either. 'Cause, damn. (I seem to have channeled Will Smith there at the end.)
Well as with the Kirsten Stewart movie, I think we have to accept that "fairest" applies to more than just her physical beauty.
I agree though, that is some damn unflattering hair she's got.
Ah, makes sense, well I have to give them some credit then.
I didn't catch this at all Sunday night but someone did:'Once Upon' promo blunder: Snow White's magic crotch!
^^ Pretty funny, though I wonder what that viewer was focusing on when they noticed that. Eyes up here, pal!
A good episode overall, although I really could have done without yet another flashback to the Enchanted Forest. Especially because I'd much much rather have seen more of Neal, Mulan, Aurora, and Phillip.
Also, I'm getting a bit tired of Snow having to constantly remind Emma that she's her mother.
Dumb question; do we know what exactly Pan is going to do with Henry?
Actually, it's more what Henry's going to do for him...
I thought this was a good episode. We got some interesting stuff with the Emma and Co. and Rumple. I've liked the arc of Emma having to accept who and what she is, and we got some good movement on that front here. They said before the premier aired that Neverland would force the characters to confront their pasts, and we definitely started to see that here. Apparently this stuff with Rumple and his father will be an ongoing thing at least for a while, because his father will be appearing later in the season.
I do agree that the flashbacks for this one were kind of meh. I understand what they were going for with the thematic link, but the storyline itself just felt unnecessary. It didn't really tell us anything about Snow that we didn't already know. It looks like next week's flashbacks will be a lot more interesting.
I wonder if we'll ever get any flashbacks for Aurora, Granny or any of the other Dwarves? They've all been in several episodes, but we really don't know much about their histories outside of how they relate to the other characters.
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