Dude, the 90's were SOOOOO 90's
Once again.. Starfleet Seems to be a homo sapiens only club
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Dude, the 90's were SOOOOO 90's
Are you suggesting that maybe the Romulans almost committed total genocide against the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites?
Eeeesh. Yeah. If that were the case, the Federation and the Romulans definitely wouldn't have had such cordial hostilities (is that an oxymoron?) later on.
It would make sense. The Romulans would have gunned for the dominant members of the CoP, and Earth was very much the junior partner. If Earth emerged the last man standing in what was clearly written to be a devastating conflict (images of Masao Okazaki fleets in my head), that would explain a lot.
The script for the almost-made movie Star Trek: The Beginning had the Earth/Romulan war happen because Romulans were on an ethnic cleansing mission against Vulcans. Click!
I'm glad that didn't get made. The Romulans aren't that bad.
We'll see, if Tarantino gets a crack at them.
Whatever. That's missing the point.
Which is what? That the purpose of the show is to explore human relationships? I agree, but as I said in the other thread, if you're not going to use the established setting to explore the story to the fullest, it doesn't make a lot of sense to set the story in that universe.
To give an extreme example, I could decide to have a story set in the Star Trek universe which takes place in a small town in East Africa in the 24th century. Because it's the sticks even during that era, virtually everyone we see will be humans of East African extraction. I could tell some interesting stories there. But there would be relatively little reason to set the story in the Trekverse, because I'd be choosing to tell a story which could have been in a much more "mundane" setting.
The most interesting breakout characters in Trek canon have been the aliens and semi-aliens. Spock, Data, Worf, Odo, Seven of Nine, and the Doctor are all generally beloved. In contrast, aside from the captains themselves, the regular humans tend to play second fiddle on all of the shows. This is because fundamentally their stories lack the same sort of conflict that the aliens and semi-aliens have - they're stories which could be told anywhere, hence they're not taking advantage of the Trekverse.
And yet the fact remains, as Eschaton's post put it, Starfleet is the primary space exploration/defense service of the UFP.
That's an essential part of the premise, and has been since (almost) the very beginning. It's a future in which our commonalities supersede our differences, a world in which Andorians do trust their planet's security to a fleet headquartered on Earth (and a Federation government based there). Reframe your analogy in historical terms: if you were a New Yorker in the newly formed United States, would you trust your security to an organization headquartered in Washington DC and dominated by Virginians? If you were Japanese or German after World War II, would you trust your security to the US-dominated allied forces that had just defeated you? It seems unlikely, yet it happened. (In Trek terms: if you live on Earth in the 2060s, in the aftermath of a global war and first contact with aliens, would you trust your security to a newly formed United Earth government? The answer there is also clearly "yes.")
That's part of the core set of principles that Trek is about: that thinking beings can overcome their differences. Cooperation trumps conflict. If you don't buy into that, if you consider it "silly," it must be awfully difficult to enjoy Star Trek at all.
Yeah, that's basically it. I'm not generally a fan of accepting non-diagetic explanations for diagetic questions, but in this case it's hard to avoid.
Well, possibly. Wouldn't change the premise that Starfleet is the primary exploratory force for the UFP, however, and as such would presumably be open to citizens of all member worlds, regardless of what those worlds might also do independently.
Reservoir TargsTarantino's working Star Trek Titles:
The Crazy Warp Eight
Kill Kor (A two part film)
Kill Edith
Since it’s happening before TOS, I’m not surprised that the make up for the DSC crew is very similar to that one. I just take it as aliens are a bit hesitant to join SF at that point but as time goes on you see more and more of them in SF.
In the same sense that, in most American-made TV shows, the United States is the center of the universe.
Or how most Mercator-projection maps are centered on the North Atlantic.
Maybe humans are canon fodder, especially the ones from Western cultures.
I heard the Chimps Union were pretty pissed too. their shit really hit the fan, mostly cause they threw it.
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Its an American show so its Terrancentric and North American centric. In universe Starfleet needs to up it quota of non white, American males if it really wants to reflect a United Earth. It could be the in universe reason there are mainly humans running the show, the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites etc are not that interested. The novels reflect a more diverse crew, best to assume on tv the rest of the fleet is a better reflection of IDIC cos the TOS Enterprise and Discovery are not.
